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Dawson 1841/1851 Lookup
« on: Friday 16 July 04 14:40 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
I am looking for a family in the Duffield area of Derby
Father Septimus Dawson wife Alice
Children James abt.1815,Mary Ann abt 1817,Alice abt 1820,Francis abt.1824,and John abt.1827.
Thank you for your help.
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Re: Dawson 1841/1851 Lookup
« Reply #1 on: Monday 19 July 04 19:47 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mable,
Will do look up, with pleasure, but need more information.
Duffield, was and still is, a village in Derbyshire. However for 400+ years it was the only church were the surrounding villages could marry etc.
I have checked the bpts. of the children you list which all took place at Duffield, this does not mean they lived in Duffield.  Also James Bpt. 6.8.1815
is shown on IGI as the Son of Septimus Dawson & Phillis, the rest are shown as the children of Septimus Dawson & Alice. (could be IGI is incorrect)
Alice b 1820 married Henry Ward 18.3.1845
Mary Ann married Joseph Wheatley 3.5.1852
These marriages took place in Duffield.
On the 1881 Census Mary(ann) b.1817 is at Holbrook More says born MILFORD, Derbys
John b 1827 is in Tottenham< Middlesex  says born MILFORD, Derbys
If you have found any of them on other Census, where do they say they were born?
If these are the correct people born in Milford, they were probably employed
in the Cotton Mills - do you have any occupations for any of the family.
Just to give you an idea of the places they could have lived and still been
bpt in Duffield - Belper, Milford, Holbrook, Shottle, Ashlyhay, Alderwasley, Little Eaton, etc. etc.  Too many places to do a random search.
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Re: Dawson 1841/1851 Lookup
« Reply #2 on: Monday 19 July 04 20:29 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
The only other information that I have is the deaths of Septimus/Alice is District Belper 1851/1871 if that is of any help.
I have a Charles Swift born abt.1827 at Derby only can find him in the 1851 census living in Tamworth Stafforshire could I ask you to see in you can find him in the 1841 census for Derby he was a Engineer/ Fitter Thank you very much for your help.
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Re: Dawson 1841/1851 Lookup
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 20 July 04 14:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mable,
As I suspected the Dawson family were not living in Duffield.
1841 Census HO107/180/14  Folio 20
Holbrook Moor, Nr. Belper Derbyshire.
Dawson  Septimus     55  C hose maker         born   Derbyshire
"             Alice            55     -                                        "
"           James           25  Quarry Labourer                  "
"          Maryann        20    Silk Seamer                         "
"          Alice              20     "       "                                "
"        Francis            15   Silk Hose Maker                    "
"         John               14    ? Labourer.  ( hard to read but could be railway Labourer)                                                         born Derbyshire.
Scragg   Susan         54  Char. Woman                          "

1851 Census  ho 107/2144  fOLIO 264  Sch. 66
New Zealand, Holbrook, Derbyshire

Dawson  Alice       Head   Widow         59    Glove Stitcher            Holbrook
Scragg  Susanna   Sister  U/Married     64    Pauper                           "
Dawson Mary       Dau          "               33   Silk Glove Stitcher      Belper
"          George     Nephew                      7    "       "           "           Holbrook
"          Alice          Niece                           1 
Wheatley     **        Joseph     Visitor        25   Coal Miner                   "

** This is who Mary married 1852.

For the 1841 Census only, the ages were rounded down 5 years e.g.
if age is stated as 20, they would be aged between 20 - 25 years.
Septimus is a "C hose maker", ofter called a framework knitter.  the C denotes that he was making hose from Cotton.  a "Silk Seamer" the hose were knitted flat (not a tube as today) the seamer was responsible for sewing up the flat hose, to make a
stocking - hence the seam we used to get in stockings.  Silk workers, either knitters or seamers were paid a little more for their work.

Sorry, I am unable to do a Census Search for Derby as my local library only have the returns for Belper & District.

Hope this helps
Spendlove


                       
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Re: Dawson 1841/1851 Lookup
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 20 July 04 22:07 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
Thank you very much for your help.
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