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Keith Sherwood
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Pendlebury Railway Station? Also about the Acme Mill
« on: Tuesday 28 June 05 09:46 UTC (UK) »

I'm back again, to ask more irritating questions about the geography of the Salford area...
Did Pendlebury ever have a railway station?  It's just that I've now read that the painter L.S.Lowry lived at 117, Station Rd., Pendlebury in 1916, and indeed for most of his working life.  He was said to have stated that on coming out of the Station he could see the Acme Spinning Mill, or would he have been talking about what is now Swinton station?
I am trying to pinpoint 30, Railway Terrace, Pendlebury, where a branch of my Dyson family lived in the 1901 Census.
Another question would be - where would I be able to find details of the history of this Acme Mill.  Does it still exist today...?
Very best wishes,
Keith
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Re: Pendlebury Railway Station? Also about the Acme Mill
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 June 05 10:25 UTC (UK) »

Keith
Have you tried Salford Local History Library?
Claudia
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Re: Pendlebury Railway Station? Also about the Acme Mill
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 28 June 05 10:26 UTC (UK) »

It's about 250 yards from 117 Station Rd to Swinton railway station. I don't think that Pendlebury had any other station named after it.
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Re: Pendlebury Railway Station? Also about the Acme Mill
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 28 June 05 10:34 UTC (UK) »

The mill's address was Swinton Hall Road, which is parallel with the railway on the other side from 117.
It is claimed to have been the UK's first electrically driven cotton spinning mill.

Anyone know if it still stands?
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Re: Pendlebury Railway Station? Also about the Acme Mill
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 June 05 11:38 UTC (UK) »

Claudia and Andrew,
Thanks for these replies - it's on the rare occasions when someone who was very famous comes into the equation that the personal family history thing becomes so much more illuminated.  Who needs black and white photos of a location, when you've got Lowry's amazing paintings of the industrial landscapes of Salford, where he lived...as did the Dyson's.
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Re: Pendlebury Railway Station? Also about the Acme Mill
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 28 June 05 14:11 UTC (UK) »

I envy you the artistic illustrations. The best I can come up with for lots in my tree are photos of the places where their houses USED to be. Even one of the places where I lived has gone!
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Re: Pendlebury Railway Station? Also about the Acme Mill
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 28 June 05 18:26 UTC (UK) »

Hi i have a pic of the acme mill which has now been demolished.regards henry


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Re: Pendlebury Railway Station? Also about the Acme Mill
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 28 June 05 21:22 UTC (UK) »

Hi, Henry,
Thanks very much for that lovely clear picture of the Acme Mill.  I don't suppose you know how recently it was demolished, do you?
And I take it now that a station called Pendlebury never existed, that Swinton station was/is  the only one in the area...
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Keith
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Re: Pendlebury Railway Station? Also about the Acme Mill
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 29 June 05 12:28 UTC (UK) »

I've just found a 1924 OS 1-inch map which shows another station between the current Swinton station and Irlams o'th Height (love that name!). DOesn't say what it was called though.

However that would have been more than 1/2 mile further away. The station on Lowry's Station Rd (Swinton) is definitely the right one. I've not found any reference to it having a different name in the past.
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Re: Pendlebury Railway Station? Also about the Acme Mill
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 29 June 05 16:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi Keith
     just got this from national archives
                  HELD AT . Salford city archives
        immediate source of acquisition
        the following record was received from swinton library in nov 1986.
         ADMINISTRATIVE HISTORY
     For an account of the history of this company to 1920 see concerning cotton published by the amalgamated cotton mills trust ltd.and its component companies(c.1920 salford local history library)According to the account in this book ,the mill no.1 mill of acme spinning co ltd opened in 1905 ,was the 1st electrically driven cotton mill in the UK.
The account adds that in 1907 the company bought an adjoining mill (albion mill of pendlebury spinning company ltd which was built in 1855
The firm listed in directories for the suburbs of m/c.

         ACME MILL WAS DEMOLISHED IN 1984 (information supplied by Mr A.s frankland )
all the above may not be relevent  but thats what the document said.
i went into google search (acme mill pendlebury) ther may be more info for you there.
regards henry
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Re: Pendlebury Railway Station? Also about the Acme Mill
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 29 June 05 17:57 UTC (UK) »

I've just checked my recording of this Sunday's "Picture of Britain" (BBC1), which shows archive footage of L S Lowry walking out of PENDLEBURY Station.
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Re: Pendlebury Railway Station? Also about the Acme Mill
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 29 June 05 22:20 UTC (UK) »

Thanks again, Andrew, for confirmation about the railway station...
And Henry, I think the 1984 detail from the TNA tidies up when the Acme Mill was demolished.
Finally, yes SKB, it was the TV programme on Sunday that got me going on all this.  That Dimbleby man does tend to whizz about from one location to another, though, and I wonder whether they actually meant "Swinton Station".  Is this case a cut and dried matter, then? 
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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 30 June 05 13:37 UTC (UK) »

I've watched the Dimbleby thing again and in the Lowry footage you can clearly see the sign on the building says "Pendlebury Station"

I'm still confused though. My 1997 Manchester A-Z doesn't have a Station Rd Pendlebury, but does have a Station Rd Swinton.

And the Salford website

www.salford.gov.uk/living/planning/listedbuilding/listed-register.htm

shows "117 Station Rd Pendlebury" as a listed building.

Could it be that Pendlebury Station was renamed Swinton Station by Beeching or similar?
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Re: Pendlebury Railway Station? Also about the Acme Mill
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 30 June 05 13:59 UTC (UK) »

Hi, SKB,
Well done for recording that programme and having another look at it!  I'm as confused as anyone, as I have pored over the modern map and been perplexed by it all.  I'm half-expecting a person who lives on the doorstep (if you can use that expression about a station), to send me a short, sharp definitive answer.
Wouldn't surprise me at all if Mr Beeching had something to do with it, though...
Keith
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Re: Pendlebury Railway Station? Also about the Acme Mill
« Reply #14 on: Monday 11 July 05 14:02 UTC (UK) »

Pendlebury Railway Station, the Acme Mill and Railway Terrace.

This is your lucky day.... as I am about as local as you can get in Swinton and Pendlebury (former borough). I was born in Clifton (1946) which is one of the 3 districts which make up the Borough of Swinton and Pendlebury (M27). I have lived for the past 30 years in Pendlebury and went to three different schools in Pendlebury and I am VERY familiar with the station, the mill and Railway Terrace. All three place have now been gone quite some time. My parents and 3 out of 4 grandparents were all born in Pendlebury too. Well let us begin shall we?

Pendlebury Station was on Bolton Road (A666) opposite St Augustine's CE School and Church and what is now called the Isis Restaurant which was the Station Hotel pub. Swinton station is much nearer to where Lowry lived. Swinton station is on Station Road of course. But Station Road is partly in Swinton and partly in Pendlebury. Swinton station is, believe it or not, actually in Pendlebury. At the side of the station is Boundary Road which is normally thought as being part of the boundary between Swinton and Pendlebury, at least Royal Mail go by this rule. In fact the Swinton Parish boundary is actually even further down the road than Boundary Road. The only railway station actually in Swinton itself is Moorside station (Moorside Road) and this used to be called Moorside and Wardley station. Pendlebury station closed about 40 odd years ago.

The Acme Mill was the first spinning mill in the country run exclusively by electricity when it opened about 1905. It was one of Lowry's favourite subject in his many local paintings. It was demolished about 1984. I remember seeing it come down at the time.

Railway Terrace. I went to school with a boy who lived in this street. It went many years ago in the clearances in the 1960s. It was just of Bridge Street, Pendlebury and was off the western side of Bridge Street on the northern side of the railway line very close to where the bottom of Union Street is now if you look on your A-Z map.
It only had houses on one side and faced the railings at the top of the railway cutting.

If there is anything else you wish to know just shout. Hope this is helpful.

Good luck.
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