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bpking
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Ipswich Gaol
« on: Thursday 30 June 05 21:31 UTC (UK) »

Hello

Does anyone happen to have a picture of Ipswich Gaol?

My 4x Gt Grandfather was incarcerated there in 1792 just after it was built & was to be the first person to be hanged on its new gibbett until he took matters into his own hands and did the job himself in his cell the night before his execution was due. I would love to see what the building looked like. A Google search gave no results but there must be engravings or paintings of it somewhere.

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Brenda
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Re: Ipswich Gaol
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 July 05 16:10 UTC (UK) »

Its surprising how elusive a picture of the jail is.
It isn't a lot of help bit if you Google 'margaret catchpole' there are a number of sites about the horsethief / transportee which have an engraving of her escaping over the wall from Ipswich Gaol. Shame your ancestor didn't follow in her footsteps!
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Re: Ipswich Gaol
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 July 05 17:18 UTC (UK) »

Hello

Thanks for your suggestion but unfortunately Margaret Catchpole was too early. The new gaol was built after Margaret's time, it opened in the summer of 1791. Maybe because too many were escaping from the old one!!!

My ancestor was one of the first residents, they had single cells for the first time and a "peculiar dress" uniform. He was to be the very first person to be hanged on the new gibbet had he not thwarted their plans.

Thanks anyway

Brenda

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Re: Ipswich Gaol
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 February 06 11:23 UTC (UK) »

have you tried suffolk records office...ipswich
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Re: Ipswich Gaol
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 26 March 06 12:06 UTC (UK) »

I just wanted to say that the old cells within the gaol are still there - having worked there. Up until recently this was owned by Suffolk County Council. My husband in fact has done maintenance work there and the old hanging post outside at the top of the gaol is still there.  I am thinking of contacting them soon to see if i can go and visit the old cells again before the new owners move in.

I have found a few photos for you if you go this site. As Mrs Wallis Simpson got her divorce there to marry Edward VIII.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/09l/
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Re: Ipswich Gaol
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 26 March 06 22:55 UTC (UK) »

Hello Sally

Thank you so much for your message & link. I have just recently found a picture of the gaol at www.kindred-spirit.co.uk/imagedetail.php?picid=13036. I cannot see a similarity, though, between this and the ones you mention. Please can you confirm that they are the same building?

Re the old hanging post you mention, according to an Ipswich Journal report my ancestor was to be the first to be hanged on it, in April 1792, & it was tested before the planned day of his execution to ensure it was working properly. My ancestor had other ideas though.

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Re: Ipswich Gaol
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 March 06 09:44 UTC (UK) »

Hi Brenda

Yes your photo is the same building but showing the rear of the building although it is somewhat changed from that at the back now as a lot of it has been replaced. The photo I sent you is the front facade.

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Re: Ipswich Gaol
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 March 06 10:32 UTC (UK) »

Lovely. Thanks very much, Sally.

Brenda
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Re: Ipswich Gaol
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 03 October 07 17:52 UTC (UK) »

Hi Brenda,

I've looked in the book "Death Recorded, Capital Punishment in Suffolk, 1732-1900", by Pip Wright, 2006, which contains some details on your relative if he was called James Mann; there are also some reproductions of prints from around that time showing the scaffold on the roof of the gateway into the gaol.

Book was published by Pawprint, ISBN 0-9548298-3-2.

Hope this is useful,

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Re: Ipswich Gaol
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 04 October 07 00:04 UTC (UK) »

Hi Brenda,

I've looked in the book "Death Recorded, Capital Punishment in Suffolk, 1732-1900", by Pip Wright, 2006, which contains some details on your relative if he was called James Mann; there are also some reproductions of prints from around that time showing the scaffold on the roof of the gateway into the gaol.

Book was published by Pawprint, ISBN 0-9548298-3-2.

Hope this is useful,

windy_miller

Thanks very much, Windy. I must try to get a copy.

Brenda
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Re: Ipswich Gaol
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 04 October 07 10:48 UTC (UK) »

Pip has his own web site at

www.pipwright.com

All his publications can be bought directly from him.

There are a couple more of his books available on www.poppyland.co.uk which specialises in books from Suffolk and Norfolk.

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