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« on: Sunday 03 July 05 14:34 BST (UK) »

01.10.2005:
The original title       TUTORIAL: Help with building your website.
has been change to TOPICS: Help with building your website.

A new thread TUTORIAL: Step-by-Step Guide to building your website
will now run parallel to this one, with the same organisational scheme




This is not quite a tutorial but hopefully a way of making it easier for people to locate the most frequently asked questions on topics related to building their own website.

This whole site is full of very useful information so don’t be restricted by what you see in this posting have a look round and you’ll be amazed by how much helpful information there is!

With a lot of support from Berlin-Bob I have collected this information together.
Hopefully it will answer some of your problems ... if it doesn't, just ask ! - there is always help out there.

For those of you who have already built your sites any suggestions/advice as how we can improve on what's here let me know.
Jo


We've done this in sections, to make it easier.  Either scroll down, or click on the links:

  1. How do I apply for Rootschat Webspace?

  2. Help ! - I’ve got my webspace what do I do now ?
  3. Decide what you want your website to do and how you want to present it.
  4. Do I need a special program?
  5. Testing / Previewing my site
  6. Uploading to your site
  7. Extras
  8. File Types
  9. From Beginner to Expert ...
10. RootsChat
11. Adding a family tree to your web-site
12. Related Problems



Berlin-Bob:
We intend to keep adding to this thread, so as Jo says,
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any suggestions/advice as how we can improve on what's here let me [us] know.

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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,234397.0.html
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LANCASTER - London Kent Sussex Croydon
CLEMMANS - London Kent Sussex
ROCHE - London
WARE - Kent
SPENCER - Kent
NEWNHAM - Sussex
FISHER - London Norfolk
DENNINGTON - London
MONTAGUE - Kent

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Re: Tutorial-Help with building your website.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 03 July 05 14:36 BST (UK) »

1. How do I apply for Rootschat Webspace?

This is easy, just follow Trystan’s instructions and you will have your own holding page almost instantly.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,13130.msg45621.html

See also:
Tutorial: Step-by-Step Guide to building your website
1. How do I apply for Rootschat Webspace?
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LANCASTER - London Kent Sussex Croydon
CLEMMANS - London Kent Sussex
ROCHE - London
WARE - Kent
SPENCER - Kent
NEWNHAM - Sussex
FISHER - London Norfolk
DENNINGTON - London
MONTAGUE - Kent

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Re: Tutorial-Help with building your website.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 03 July 05 14:39 BST (UK) »

2. Help ! - I’ve got my webspace what do I do now ?

If you have no experience with websites this is the most scary bit. But actually it isn’t! You will need to replace this ‘holding’ page with your own page using an FTP program. Look at posting 6 where there is lots of advice and directions to free programs! Trystan has sent you the passwords you will need

Before you can do this you need to look at the next posting on what to put on your site
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LANCASTER - London Kent Sussex Croydon
CLEMMANS - London Kent Sussex
ROCHE - London
WARE - Kent
SPENCER - Kent
NEWNHAM - Sussex
FISHER - London Norfolk
DENNINGTON - London
MONTAGUE - Kent

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Re: Tutorial-Help with building your website.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 03 July 05 14:40 BST (UK) »

3. Decide what you want your website to do and how you want to present it.  

Family history ?  local history ?  a combination of both ?

Check out these topics:
Common Room / Presentation 

Common Room / Publishing One's Own Family History - any advice?

Common Room / BOOK: ... Writing your Family History

And check out other RootsChat websites for ideas: List of Rootschat Websites

It might help you to visualise it better, if you draw sketches of what you want the end result to look like ....
« Last Edit: Sunday 25 September 05 20:11 BST (UK) by Berlin-Bob » Logged

LANCASTER - London Kent Sussex Croydon
CLEMMANS - London Kent Sussex
ROCHE - London
WARE - Kent
SPENCER - Kent
NEWNHAM - Sussex
FISHER - London Norfolk
DENNINGTON - London
MONTAGUE - Kent

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Re: Tutorial-Help with building your website.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 03 July 05 14:42 BST (UK) »

4. Do I need a special program?

There are lots of different methods you can use. Choose what suits you the best.
Check the other Rootschat sites to see which programs they have used and how they are presented


a) Family History Programs:
If you already have a Family History Programs this will probably write web pages for you.
Look for a command in the menus: Export to HTML, or Create Web Pages, or something similar ...
The downside is if you want to edit these you are quite restricted in what you can do.


For a step-by-Step guide click on this link
Topic: TUTORIAL: Step-by-Step Guide to building your website
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,93490.msg397239.html#msg397239

b) Programs for creating webpages from GEDCOM files:


c) Programs for creating webpages:
These programs will give you the freedom to design your pages but are not specifically geared to family history

       

d) Combined Method
These programs help with your trees but allow you much more flexibility


e) DIY:
Disadvantage: you need to know HTML
Advantage: If you can, you have total contol over what you're doing !
« Last Edit: Sunday 05 August 07 08:54 BST (UK) by Berlin-Bob » Logged

LANCASTER - London Kent Sussex Croydon
CLEMMANS - London Kent Sussex
ROCHE - London
WARE - Kent
SPENCER - Kent
NEWNHAM - Sussex
FISHER - London Norfolk
DENNINGTON - London
MONTAGUE - Kent

Any census lookups are Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Tutorial-Help with building your website.
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 03 July 05 14:42 BST (UK) »

5. Testing / Previewing my site

Do all your testing offline and make sure you have a copy of your site somewhere safe!
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,47483.0.html

You can upload your pages as soon as you are happy with them.

You don’t need to complete your site before you upload it. If you just do a temporary index page it will delete your holding page so that Trystan and the Rootschat team will know you can access your site. The very nature of researching family history means most sites are ‘work in progress.’
« Last Edit: Friday 05 August 05 20:10 BST (UK) by Berlin-Bob » Logged

LANCASTER - London Kent Sussex Croydon
CLEMMANS - London Kent Sussex
ROCHE - London
WARE - Kent
SPENCER - Kent
NEWNHAM - Sussex
FISHER - London Norfolk
DENNINGTON - London
MONTAGUE - Kent

Any census lookups are Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Tutorial-Help with building your website.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 03 July 05 14:58 BST (UK) »

6. Uploading to your site

FTP – File Transfer Protocol

This is the program that you need in order to upload you pages to the Rootsweb server.

There is very good help and information available through this
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,54625.msg218872.html

Berlin-Bob:
Just to keep you going, till you have a better programm -
There is also an FTP program with your RootsChat webspace:
Just  login to your webspace manager, and click on "File Manager"
Then you can load and delete files. 
It is a bit cumbersome for dealing with more than one file at a time, but OK just for quick fixes.


15.07.2005:
Check out this thread aswell if you have FTP problems; this might be your answer too !
Topic: Uploading to website
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,73066.0.html
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LANCASTER - London Kent Sussex Croydon
CLEMMANS - London Kent Sussex
ROCHE - London
WARE - Kent
SPENCER - Kent
NEWNHAM - Sussex
FISHER - London Norfolk
DENNINGTON - London
MONTAGUE - Kent

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Re: Tutorial-Help with building your website.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 03 July 05 15:01 BST (UK) »

7. Extras

Once you sorted the basics of your site you may well need help with

Adding images and creating thumbnails
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,47486.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,41844.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,36436.0.html

Adding a photo album
Topic: Free web album
Topic: web albums

How do I add a webcounter?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24883.0.html

How do I get search engines to find my site?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,35454.0.html

What are meta tags?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,40326.0.html

Adding a web counter
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24883.0.html

Adding a Guestbook
Topic: Guestbooks - any ideas?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,75215.0.html

Adding a family tree to your website
Topic: Help and advice - family trees on websites

E-mail addresses, and Forms for Emailing from site
You may not want to have your e-mail address on site.
Why not add a form, for people to e-mail you, direct from your site
Topic: Forms for Emailing from site
and
Topic: TIP: putting an e-mail address on your web site
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,47479.0.html
« Last Edit: Sunday 03 September 06 18:22 BST (UK) by Berlin-Bob » Logged

LANCASTER - London Kent Sussex Croydon
CLEMMANS - London Kent Sussex
ROCHE - London
WARE - Kent
SPENCER - Kent
NEWNHAM - Sussex
FISHER - London Norfolk
DENNINGTON - London
MONTAGUE - Kent

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Re: Tutorial-Help with building your website.
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 03 July 05 15:02 BST (UK) »

8. File Types

This is the list of file types which are permitted on the Rootschat webspace:

"The following list of file types are the only file types permitted on RootsChat Webspace members sites. All other file types are not permitted:

js, swf, au, snd, ged mid, midi, ram, wav, gif, jpg, wrl, vrml, css, html, htm, rtf, png, psd, ico, doc, php, sql;

Any other files located by RootsChat Webspace will be automatically deleted.

The maximum upload file size is 1 MB.
The limit for jpegs is 1 MB, for gifs is 1 MB and for HTML or Text files is 0.5 MB."


One other point to bear in mind, is that WINDOWS is pretty "sloppy" about file names, it treats upper and lower case the same.

RootsChat uses a LINUX server, which is more fussy. 
Best tip here is to keep all file names in lower-case, and avoid blanks and special characters in the names.
« Last Edit: Sunday 03 July 05 18:46 BST (UK) by Berlin-Bob » Logged

LANCASTER - London Kent Sussex Croydon
CLEMMANS - London Kent Sussex
ROCHE - London
WARE - Kent
SPENCER - Kent
NEWNHAM - Sussex
FISHER - London Norfolk
DENNINGTON - London
MONTAGUE - Kent

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Re: Tutorial-Help with building your website.
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 03 July 05 15:04 BST (UK) »

9. From Beginner to Expert ...

For many of the people on Rootschat this has been their very first attempt at building a website and they all struggled but it is very worthwhile so keep at it!!
Look at these sites to see how well two of the complete novices managed
http://batemans-history.rootschat.net/
http://juliancbaker.rootschat.net
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LANCASTER - London Kent Sussex Croydon
CLEMMANS - London Kent Sussex
ROCHE - London
WARE - Kent
SPENCER - Kent
NEWNHAM - Sussex
FISHER - London Norfolk
DENNINGTON - London
MONTAGUE - Kent

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Re: Tutorial-Help with building your website.
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 03 July 05 15:07 BST (UK) »

10. RootsChat

Remember that whatever happens as Trystan says "You can’t break it." 

And there is always never ending help and advice. However trivial you think you problem don’t be afraid to ask. People on this site were, and still are, endlessly patient with our struggles as you can see here…
Jocie: From "Where do i start ?" to "At last !!!!!"
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,60069.0.html
and here ....
Dinie: Looking to create website
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,66258.0.html

And...when you have achieved your aim don't forget to mention RootsChat Grin
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CLEMMANS - London Kent Sussex
ROCHE - London
WARE - Kent
SPENCER - Kent
NEWNHAM - Sussex
FISHER - London Norfolk
DENNINGTON - London
MONTAGUE - Kent

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Re: Tutorial-Help with building your website.
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 03 July 05 15:12 BST (UK) »

11. Adding family trees to your web-site

Why not add your family tree to your web-site !
see Topic: Help and advice - family trees on websites
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,143930.0.html
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LANCASTER - London Kent Sussex Croydon
CLEMMANS - London Kent Sussex
ROCHE - London
WARE - Kent
SPENCER - Kent
NEWNHAM - Sussex
FISHER - London Norfolk
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MONTAGUE - Kent

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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 03 July 05 15:13 BST (UK) »

12. Related Problems

Here are a few things to think about when publishing a website

Topic: BMD cert. images on websites - copyright issue
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,162690.0.html

Topic: Copyright: Newspaper Article and Website
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,176307.0.html
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CLEMMANS - London Kent Sussex
ROCHE - London
WARE - Kent
SPENCER - Kent
NEWNHAM - Sussex
FISHER - London Norfolk
DENNINGTON - London
MONTAGUE - Kent

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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 03 July 05 17:53 BST (UK) »

Just wanted to say a big, big   Thank you   to Jocie for all the work she has put into this.

We will be working on it together, to improve it, so that anybody who wants to start a website can jump straight in !

If anything is not clear, let us know, and we can add bits and re-write things, etc..

Bob
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