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Topic: 1901/1891 Census London? Sherring/Skerring please. Completed. (Read 820 times)
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Reyz
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Been trying to find on the 1901 Census and 1891 Census :
Jeanette Rosa SHERRING or sometimes spelt SKERRING (nee SPENCER)
on the 1901 Census, she would be 54
Born 1845/46 in St Margarets Westminster.
1881 she is in Webb's County Terrace Newington - transcribed as 'Jersmith' Sherring
Not at that address in 1891
Marriage certificate in 1865 she is SHERRING and a living at Horseferry Road Westminster. Husband Edwin Newland SHERRING born 1842 Islington/Bethnal Green a House Decorator.
They did not have any children.
Prior to that 1861/51 she lives in Westminster with her parents SPENCER's
on her Will in 1932 she is SKERRING and her husband Edwin Newland Skerring is deceased.
Wonder if anyone else can see her on the 1901 or 1891 Please, or perhaps just not there?
Thanks a lot
Reyz
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London UK: Bird Southwark, c1740+ Bogg - Lightermen, Brittle, Chamberlane, Coulter, Perry and Spencer - Licensed Victuallers/Pub Landlords, Woollcott. South Wales UK: Brecon: Godsell, Hope, Jones and Smith. Merthyr Tydfil area: Hope, Jones, Long and Prothero(e). Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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sal
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Hi Reyz
1891 Census
RG12/522 folio 79 page37
23 Embleton St, Lewisham
Edwin N Sherring Head Mar 48 Foreman House Decorator born Islington Sussex
Jeanette R Sherring Wife Mar 44 born Pimloco London
Jeanette's name was transcribed as Teannte but looked like Jeannte to me.
Hope this helps
Sal
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Quirot - Jersey C/I, Lancashire Gouyette - France, Jersey C/I Hall - Northampton, Lancashire Buckley - Oldham Lancashire - Saddleworth Yorkshire Leeson - Northampton Bisson - Jersey C/I Eastwood - Oldham, Shaw, Royton, Middleton Lancashire Mayall - Oldham Lancashire Census Information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Are these Edwins family in 1861? On this census it has the wife age 39 but looking at the 1871 she is born in 1802 and on the 1861 census it looks like the 59 has been altered to 39?
1861 Census
RG9/47 Folio 92
Page 33
65 Grosvenor Terrace
Westminster
Augusta Sherring abt 1838 Middlesex, England Daughter
Caleb Sherring abt 1798 Middlesex, England Head grocer out of business
Caleb Winford Sherring abt 1833 Middlesex, England Son
Edwin N Sherring abt 1844 Middlesex, England Son drapers assistant
Emily Eleanor Sherring abt 1847 Middlesex, England Daughter
Emma Sherring abt 1841 Middlesex, England Daughter
Frances Sherring abt 1832 Middlesex, England Daughter
Mary Sherring abt 1822 Middlesex, England Wife
1871 39 HORSEFERRY ROAD
St George Hanover Square
RG10/117 Folio 89
Page 20
James Hurst abt 1836 St Johns Westminster Lodger waiter
Caleb Sherring abt 1798 Aldgate Head grocers porter
Caleb Sherring abt 1832 St Johns Westminster Son decorator
Emily Sherring abt 1848 Aldgate Daughter
Fanny Sherring abt 1839 Aldgate Daughter
Mary Sherring abt 1802 Aldgate Wife
William Turner abt 1869 St Johns Westminster nurse child
1871 cencus
RG10/1296 Folio13 Page 17
no street name
Sandhurst
Berkshire
EDWIN Sherring abt 1844 Islington, Middlesex, England Head Sandhurst Berkshire House Painter
JEANETT with no E Sherring abt 1847 Westminster, Middlesex, England Wife Sandhurst Berkshire
1891
RG12/522 Folio 79
Page 37
23 Embleton Street
Lewisham
Sherring, Edwin N abt 1843 Islington, Sussex, England Head Foreman house decorator
Sherring, Teannte R abt 1847 Pimlico, London, England Wife IT IS SPELT JEANNTE on the census
Looking at the 1901 now
Pam
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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham. census information are crown copyright of www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Reyz
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Sal & Pam
Thank you so much  that is wonderful!
Caleb was Edwin's father.
Lewisham has never turned up before in the family line, interesting.
Thank you again its much appreciated.
Reyz
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London UK: Bird Southwark, c1740+ Bogg - Lightermen, Brittle, Chamberlane, Coulter, Perry and Spencer - Licensed Victuallers/Pub Landlords, Woollcott. South Wales UK: Brecon: Godsell, Hope, Jones and Smith. Merthyr Tydfil area: Hope, Jones, Long and Prothero(e). Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Reyz
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Still looking in 1901 for Jeannette Rosa SHERRING born c1847 in Pimlico / Westminster London.
Husband Edwin Sherring c1843 Islington
No children.
Jeannette died in 1932 so I know she was still around. Maiden name SPENCER.
Tried and tried myself, wonder if anyone else can see her please?
Thank you
Reyz
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London UK: Bird Southwark, c1740+ Bogg - Lightermen, Brittle, Chamberlane, Coulter, Perry and Spencer - Licensed Victuallers/Pub Landlords, Woollcott. South Wales UK: Brecon: Godsell, Hope, Jones and Smith. Merthyr Tydfil area: Hope, Jones, Long and Prothero(e). Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Hello
She is hard to find in 1901was Edwin alive then?
Pam
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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham. census information are crown copyright of www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Going through the family to se if this helps
1881 St John the Evangelist LondonRG11/110 folio 100 page 29
Horseferry Road
Caleb W Sherring age 48 head unmarried Foreman to Decorator born Picadilly London
Francis Sherring sister unmarried age 47 born Picadilly London
John Longmoore lodger age 58 unmarried Ships Broker born in Finland
Jane Babbage servant born Cork Ireland
John Miles visitor age 34 File maker born Westminster Middlesex
Ellen wife age 30 visitor born Bradford
Edward Skipsey visitor age 46 Army Surgeon born Leicester
Lucy Skipsey wife age 39 visitor born Leicester
Charles Skipsey age 9 London
Ernest Skipsey age 11 London
Edward Skipsey age 7 London
1891 St Paul Deptford London RG12/505 folio 52 page 10
Caleb Sherring head 58 Painter decorator born Piccadilly London
Mary J wife age 35 Peckham london
Edith dau age 1 Westminster
1901 Camberwell London RG13/519 folio 168 page 34
22 Secreton?? Road 3 families live here
Mary J Sherring age 45 Peckham London shirt machinist at home
Edith dau age 11 born Westminster
Jessie age 9 born Holloway London
Annie Allsop age 70 Aunt widow living on own means born Hatherton Staffs
Pam
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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham. census information are crown copyright of www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Hope I had the correct Caleb before
Caleb Wriford Sherring married Mary Jane Caslake
1889 march quarter St George Hanover Square 1a 637
Caleb Sherring died 1900 age 66 June quarter Camberwell 1 London Surrey 1d 495
Pam
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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham. census information are crown copyright of www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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You have the marriage certificate you say so far on Ancestry So far I can only find.....
Edwin Newland Sherring marriage 1865 Sculcoates Yorkshire East Riding
sept quarter 9d 195 Mary Roginson or Jane AliceRichardson
1841 H0107/707/8 folio 29 page 16 St Leonard Shoreditch Middlesex
Craven Street
Caleb Sherring age 45 Broker all born in County
Mary age 40
Caleb age 9
William age 7
George age 6
Myothus or Myrthus age 3 son
Mary age 12
Fanny age 10
Matilda age 5
Emma age 1
death Emma Sherring 1868 age 26 June quarter Westminster St Margaret London Middlesex 1a 234
Is this her family?
Janette Rosa Spencer 1847 March quarter Westminster St Margaret London Middlesex 1 461
same page Janeth Violet Spencer wonder if a sister
1851 H0107/1480 folio 505 page 65 Westminster St MiddlesexMargaret
23 Catherine Street
first family Elizabeth Hay married and Child plus a servant
Next family
Wm Spencer age 40 Tailor
Maria wife age 37 Shenley hertfordshire
William son age 16 app Plumber St George Middlesex
Maria age 12 St Margaret West Middlesex
Alfred age 6 St Margaret West
Next page
hard to read Janet with a H on end age 4 I think it is Jannett St Margaret West Middlesex
James age 8 months St Margaret West
1861 RG9/54 folio 25 page 53 Westminster St Margaret Middlesex
23 Catherine Street
William Spencer age 50 Tailor born Bath Somerset
Maria wife age 48 Hertfordshire
William son age 26 plumber St George Middlesex
Alfred J son age 16 Clerk St George Middlesex
Janet R dau age 14 born Westminister Middlesex
James H age 10 Westminister Middlesex
Emily A age 6 West Middlesex
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Ellen N Spencer transcribed Grenser I am sure it is Spencer dau age 23 barmaid Wests
1871 RG10/576 folio 50 page 42 St Mary Stratford St Bow Middlesex
George Hy Perry age 35 Clerk all born Middlesex
Ellen wife age 33
Amy age 7
Henry age 5
James age 3 born
Alice age 7 months born
Emily Spencer Middlesex age 17 wifes sister
Maria Ann Spencer married George Henry Perry 1862 Mar quarter Westminster St Margaret London 1a 453
has Maria changer her name to Ellen like on the 61 census ??
1881 Camberwell London
1 Machell Street
George H Perry age 45 widow Merchants Clerk born Finsbury
Ann dau age 17 born Whitechapel
Henry age 15 born Hackney
James age 13 born Islington
Alice age 10 born Bow
Maud age 8 born Bow
Edwin age 6 born Bow
1891 Polar St Luke London RG12/334 folio 120 page 3
Henry Bishop head widow with 3 sons licensed Victuallar Camden Town London with 7 servants
Edwin Perry age 17 Barman born Bow E London
1891 Camberwell ST Clement East Dulwich London RG12/470 folio 110 page 58
George H Perry head age 55 widow born Finsbury Clerk Commercial
Alice dau age 20 born Bow borough Middlesex
Maud age 18 dau transcribed Mono Bow Middlesex
1901 Hackney St John of Jeruselem South Hackney London RG13/231 folio 197 page 36
67 St Thomas Road
Charles Herbert head and family
also in same house
George Henry Perry age 65 widow born Finsbury London lodger crossed out and head put in Shipping agent
Still no sign of Edwin and Jeanette
Pam
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Reyz
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Hi Pam
Firstly apologies for not replying sooner.
Many thanks for all your efforts. and to answer your questions :
I don't know if Edwin Sherring was still alive in 1901.
That is the correct Caleb Sherring in 1891 and 1901, thanks.
The Mary J Sherring in 1901 in Camberwell is interesting too.
The Caleb Sherring marriage and death references will be useful thanks.
Jeannette and Edwin's Marriage was under Skerring but it is Sherring I am told. I am in touch with someone who has done the SPENCER'S Tree.
Yes that is my Spencer's at 23 Catherine Street, Westminster, they were there for a few years.
Again Many thanks for all your efforts Pam. I know how long these look ups can take. It is good to get some things confirmed and you have found a few new things too.
best wishes
Reyz
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London UK: Bird Southwark, c1740+ Bogg - Lightermen, Brittle, Chamberlane, Coulter, Perry and Spencer - Licensed Victuallers/Pub Landlords, Woollcott. South Wales UK: Brecon: Godsell, Hope, Jones and Smith. Merthyr Tydfil area: Hope, Jones, Long and Prothero(e). Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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You are very welcome I am a subscriber of a well known American genealogy site. But not world wide only UK.
1901 RG13/1639 folio 12 page 16 St Nicholas and St John Essex
Susanna Hills age 90 retired grocer born loughton Essex widow
Esther Hills age 50 dau born Loughton Essex single
Emily Perry niece age 29 Lady help domestic born Bow
London single
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Reyz
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Hi again Pam
Thanks, I have come across that Emily Perry before but I could not find anything to tie up the HILLS to my PERRY'S.
The PERRY'S mainly seemed to run Public Houses or be friends with other Publicans. Alice herself worked in her brothers Pub prior to having Nan. She also kept house for her father according to the Home records. I wondered if she was the family dogsbody . 
I found :
a Alice Perritt' 30 born Ldn (Perrie on the original) a domestic in Enfield Middx but again could not find any link. Tried the local record office too.
I cant imagine she would leave her family, they all stuck near each other. Unless they wanted her out of the way? I guess she could have died young, hope not.
There was also a Emily Vaughan 30 born Bow (as Alice was) in a pub in Shoreditch. Husband Edward but think I have eliminated her..
Not too worry, I will get there
Thank you again for your help and interest.
best wishes
Reyz
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carriedeanna
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Hi
There is a lady researching Caleb Sherring's family on Genesreunited-she was a direct relative and had him confused with my Caleb Sherrin of Twickenham for a while.
If you would like me to contact her on your behalf I could.
Carrie
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Reyz
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Hi Carrie
Welcome to Rootschat
I am a member of genesreunited too, so I will check it out.
Thank you for being so thoughtful.
happy searching
Reyz
Update: Made contact and exchanged some information. Thanks again.
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London UK: Bird Southwark, c1740+ Bogg - Lightermen, Brittle, Chamberlane, Coulter, Perry and Spencer - Licensed Victuallers/Pub Landlords, Woollcott. South Wales UK: Brecon: Godsell, Hope, Jones and Smith. Merthyr Tydfil area: Hope, Jones, Long and Prothero(e). Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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annesmall
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Hi Reyz,
I have found this forum by accident while searching through Google. I am directly decended from Caleb Wyford Sherring and Mary Jane Caslake. They were my gt. grandparents. I feel we may have been in touch before but cannot find any record of it. My tree is on Ancestry and On Genes Re-united. Maybe I am the lady Carrie referred to.
I, too have been unable to find Edwin and Jeanette in 1901 or in 1911 censuses. May we exchange information please? My username for Ancestry is asmall51.
Regards, Anne Small
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