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tazzie
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WHERE IS.....? - COMPLETED
« on: Wednesday 06 July 05 21:41 BST (UK) »

HELP SOUGHT .I am looking for details on a place called Cootehill listed as being Co, Cavan. Interested in Lisco/Lisco  family name in that area. Any info please. thanks

                                 Tazzie
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Bryan.
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Re: WHERE IS.....?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 July 05 22:51 BST (UK) »

Hi
Is this the place?


"Cootehill or Moybologue (formerly the name of the parish) is a market town and a parish, partly in the barony of Lower Kells, county of Meath, province of Leinster, partly in that of Castlerahan, but chiefly in Clankee barony, county of Cavan, about 54 miles NW from Dublin, 7.5 NE from Virginia, 14 NW by N from Kells, and 12.5 S from Cootehill; situated in a valley on the road between the two last named towns. It consists of one principal street and two diverging lanes. There is no particular branch of trade flourishing here, the business enjoyed being of a general and local nature, carried on by the shopkeepers."
[From Slater's Directory (1896)]

Taken from GENUKI.

Regards

Bryan
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Re: WHERE IS.....?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 July 05 07:27 BST (UK) »

Thanks Bryan.
Does seem to fit with the sparse information that I have .We are looking for a farm or small holding called Yellowleas. It could be in Cavan or county Meath .William Liscoe left Ireland during the famine and sailed to America.
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Bryan.
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Re: WHERE IS.....?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 July 05 09:28 BST (UK) »

Hi
There is a Yellowleas farm at Castletown,Navan,Co. Meath, and it looks as if it is still producing milk there.

Bryan
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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 July 05 09:40 BST (UK) »

this is the only Lisco on BVRI


LISCOE, John   Birth
   Gender:   Male
   Birth Date:   8 Oct 1868   Birthplace:   159, Cootehill, Cavan, Ire
         Recorded in:    Cavan, Ireland
         Collection:   Civil Registration
   Father:   George LISCOE
   Mother:   Sarah GIBSON

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Re: WHERE IS.....?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 July 05 13:13 BST (UK) »

Great that ties up a loose end.The story sent to me by a distant relative in U.S. Is that William was born @1824 some say Ireland others say England.He left Ireland but returned and married Martha Sheils/Sheilds in 1845. At the time the family farmstead was called Yellowleas. It is believed that Lisco in Nebraska was given the family name .All of their children  dropped the "E" from the name once in America

                 thank you Bryan a job well done.


 I have lots of relatives in Bedfordshire in you would like info in return
                         Tazzie
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Re: WHERE IS.....?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 July 05 13:23 BST (UK) »

Hello Audrey,
I have only just started to tie the families together most so far are in London and have been easy.I have twin girls born to George and Sarah in 1865 (Margaret & Sarah) but they may have died very young.All Christian names are carried through the family with numerous Georges .Thanks for the reply I will keep digging
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Re: WHERE IS.....?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 December 08 19:45 GMT (UK) »

Hi Tazzie

It occurred to me that it might be worth looking at the property - Yellowleas / Yellowlees Farm, rather than just the occupants with the surname LISCOE.

Yellowlees is a surname that crops up a lot throughout Great Britain but mostly around Aberdeen, Scotland.

If you want to discover where the LISCOEs lived, you could perhaps search for a YELLOWLEES who migrated to Co. Cavan and bought a farm.

The challenge would then be to check whatever census information still exists to tell you the names of later occupants of the property. Easier said than done in Ireland, I know.
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tazzie
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Re: WHERE IS.....?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 17 December 08 07:37 GMT (UK) »



   Hi Pete.......  Welcome to Rootschat.

  My Ancestors all seem to be in London back through to the mid 1700's.
  Liscoe appears in Ireland in a few pockets around Meath & Cavan. One family has been found from Ireland in Scotland in 1881.

 The Liscoe's in America are decendants of William Liscoe/Lisco who give both Eng & Ire as place of birth in the American census. If he was b Ireland in @ 1820 then I was looking to see if he was connected to my London ones in some way.

  Lisgo and variants appears further north in the Durham and Newcastle areas of England. As yet I have to get passed Thomas Liscoe who like my 5x great grandfather Samuel was a wharfinger at Hays Wharf in the port of London from 1760-1800.

  A trip to the LMA would be good so maybe in the new year a few questions will finally be answered.

  Many thanks for the interest I hope you find that we can be of help here for you....... this hobby is addictive Grin

        Best wishes

         Tazzie
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aghadowey
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Re: WHERE IS.....?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 17 December 08 07:56 GMT (UK) »

To clear up some earlier confusion, Yellowleas is the name of the townland. While there may be a farm of that name in the area it may or may not have any connection to the Liscoe family.

It occurred to me that it might be worth looking at the property - Yellowleas / Yellowlees Farm, rather than just the occupants with the surname LISCOE.
Yellowlees is a surname that crops up a lot throughout Great Britain but mostly around Aberdeen, Scotland.
If you want to discover where the LISCOEs lived, you could perhaps search for a YELLOWLEES who migrated to Co. Cavan and bought a farm.
The challenge would then be to check whatever census information still exists to tell you the names of later occupants of the property. Easier said than done in Ireland, I know.
Only two available census records for all Ireland are 1901 and 1911. More important in trying to track a property forward are Griffith's Valuation (mid 1800s) and the followup valuation notebooks (held in PRONI for Northern Ireland, not sure if Co. Cavan ones would be in Dublin if they exist) which record changes in ownership/tenants until 1920s.

We are looking for a farm or small holding called Yellowleas. It could be in Cavan or county Meath .William Liscoe left Ireland during the famine and sailed to America.
Griffith's Valuation (see link below) lists several Liscoes, including a Joseph Liscoe in Yellowleas townland, Castletown parish, Co. Meath.
http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_family_search_form.php
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 17 December 08 08:34 GMT (UK) »


   Hi Aghadowey.....

  There is still a dairy farm I have been told of the same name. May be the one  or on the site of at least.

We have  a few snippet's gleaned from various records available inc Griffiths and details of a family in Castletown co Meath with a mention of a house Mentrim House and Henry Liscoe who was the church warden  at the now derelict St Patricks. Ashe (on site ) and I have yet to join the families together but have reach one of those walls we all HATE Angry

   many thanks

            Tazzie
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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 18 December 08 10:29 GMT (UK) »

Hi Tazzie, You may have noticed on Griffiths Valustion that there were only 2 entries, i.e. heads of households and only 2 houses. Your ancestor being a householder in one entry and a landlord in the other.

Well you may find the following link interesting, and the rest of the site could be useful to you in tracing ancestors. 

http://www.valoff.ie/search/search.asp?msg=No%20matching%20properties%20to%20display

ONLY enter County Meath then townland of Yellowleas. There is one less house now  Wink though not a Liscoe I'm afraid.
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 20 December 08 09:28 GMT (UK) »




  Hi tootsiepie ....

  Haven't come across that site before. Interesting as I can use that to help a friend with some details as well.
  Maybe I need to have a real effort with this little lot as I will admit I haven't gone back to them in 2 years.

  Many thanks all for the renewed interest.

   Have a Great Christmas

              Tazzie
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