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Topic: Ko(e)rner/Wishart/Lawson Glasgow (Read 398 times)
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AMBLY
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Hi WMouse
You probably have this already but here he is on C81 with a sister (quite a gap between their ages):
Dwelling: 2 Vinicombe St
Census Place: Govan, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203690 GRO Ref Volume 646-2 EnumDist 32 Page 5
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Charles H. KORNER U 33 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Oil Merchant
Amy KORNER 17 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Sister
Henry JAMES 28 M Wales
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Student Medical
The boarder being from Wales: Often Boarders are also relatives. There were some Korner's in business in Wales in 1880
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Cardiff/slaters.1880.html
Cheers
Anne
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AMBLY
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Hi WMouse
All I have is C81 on CD - and would you believe it, I my H-L CD of national Index has a wee chip on the rim and won't work (hope I can get it repaired or replaced!!).
I looked on Wales disc itself, but no KO/ERNER at al, and a few CORNERS -: the only John's - no William attached - were Irish. And I don't think would have been mis- spelled from Ko/erner? The link I sent you, the page referred to a Korner W. & Co., 29 Royal arcade & 182 Bute st, Clotheir Outfitters & Hosiers. I had a look on C81, and find at that address in Bute street is German man (and others I havn't pasted in - staff & lodgers by the looks of it.) So not sure if he is the owner? But perhaps there is a german connection to KO/ERNER?
Dwelling: 182 Bute St
Census Place: Cardiff St Mary, Glamorgan, Wales
Source: FHL Film 1342270 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5280 Folio 145 Page 93
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Julise BRIGANNATOR W 38 M (B S), Germany
Rel: Head
Occ: Outfitter
Is the name sometimes spelled Koerner, perhaps with the umlaut above the "o"? If so , do you watch out for mistranscriptions like KERNER or maybe even COLONEL or KERNAL if (at somestage at least) they were pronouncing the name in the Germanic way?
Did find this on ScotlandsPeople Wills Index:
Koerner John Proved 26/01/1875 ; teacher of German, residing at 255 Sauchiehall Street, Glasgow, widow is Eliza Bruce Anderson Koemer; Inventory Glasgow Sheriff Court Inventories Ref: SC36/48/75
Cheers 
Anne
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Wmouse
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Hi Anne,
Thanks for your help.
Yes Ko(e)rner is spelt Korner with umlaut above the "o". In the English spelling of it the o and e are actually intertwined, and it does have German ancestry. In fact my great Uncle had Korner with the umlaut as one of his middle names and my great grandmother told him it was because if he had Korner as one of his names there was a village in Germany where he would always have a burial plot!
I had never tweaked to the idea that the family may have entered Scotland by way of Wales before.
The death registration that you have listed is John William's, but I didn't have it before. My great grandmother had said that her grandfather was a teacher of German, so I did know that.
Thanks for your help. I will persue the Wales suggestion and see what I can find.
Wmouse
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Hi Whmouse
Forgive me if you already have this, but since you confirm the item I found on WIlls Index is the John William KOERNER you're chasing as a possible parent to Charles, this appears to be his widow on C81:
Dwelling: 132 Mid St
Census Place: Dysart, Fife, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203522 GRO Ref Volume 426 EnumDist 9 Page 9
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Jessie ANDERSON U 79 F Pathhead, Fife, Scotland
Rel: Head
Eliza.B. KORNER W 53 F Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland
Rel: Neice
Jessie WRIGHT U 46 F Pathhead, Fife, Scotland
Rel: Serv
Occ: Servant
Since she is from Fife, their marriage maybe can be found there too, in her parish?
Her birth appears to be on the IGI.
I wonder what their religion was?
On IGI is a marriage of a female M L L KORNER to a W or WR ARTHUR on 03 MAY 1875 Blythswood, Glasgow, who may be related to Charles?
On C81 is the following, which may or may not be them, but their boarder is name GOUB - which I think maybe a German or Germanic name, and he's an Episcopal Clergyman. Could be something in it perhaps?
Dwelling: 13 Prince Of Wales Terrace
Census Place: Govan, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203690 GRO Ref Volume 646-2 EnumDist 32 Page 12
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
William R. ARTHUR M 40 M Kinghorn, Fife, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Agent
Mary ARTHUR M 34 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Agnes MACDONALD U 21 F Ardross N, Ayr, Scotland
Rel: Serv
Occ: Domestic Servant
Charles GOUB U 26 M Aberdeen, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Episcopal Clergyman
Cheers
Anne
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