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Adi1962
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KENT OPC
« on: Wednesday 21 July 04 12:52 UTC (UK) »

Correct me if I am wrong, but I cannot find an OPC site for Kent.

If this is the case then would anyone be interested in working on a Kent OPC site with me ??

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BUSHROD Mid Kent/Dorset,
FURMINGER Aylesford/Maidstone/Sittingbourne - Kent

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Re: KENT OPC
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 July 04 14:49 UTC (UK) »

There has been some interest in this and I have now registered a domain and will have a site up within the next week or so, depending on the web hosting company.

the site address will be  http://www.Kent-opc.org.uk

If you do not feel you can commit to taking on a full parish, then any contributions however small will be appreciated and attributed.



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Re: KENT OPC
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 August 04 08:16 UTC (UK) »

Hello,

I was just browsing and noticed your intrest in Bushrod, I also have Bushrod's in Dorset.
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Re: KENT OPC
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 August 04 11:17 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

I certainly do and in Kent also.

have a look at my website http://adi1962.users.btopenworld.com
all my Bushrod data is there.

There are around Broadmayne before coming to Kent, but one whent back to Litton Cheyney, but have lost his trail.  The Broadmayne Bushrods are the ones that emigrated to America in the 1600's and ran a plantation. Do not know if you know the history there, but basically a daughter maiired the brother of George Washington and there is also a Black Bushrod link decended from the plantation slaves that took the name of the owner.
There a bit at http://www.bushrod.com

Adrian
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Re: KENT OPC
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 August 04 19:24 UTC (UK) »

Hello Adrian

My gt gt grandfather was James Bushrod born in Broadmayne, so far all the Bushrods I have come across have been related.  I had a look on the 1841 census for Broadmayne but couldn't find John, but a lot of it is illegible.  I also had a look on the 1851 indexed census but could not find him.  Do you have any idea who his parents were?
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Re: KENT OPC
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 August 04 21:48 UTC (UK) »

Michelle,

I will come back in detail tomorrow as all my records are at work and I havn't been actively working on that line for a bit. I am sure I got a copy of the marriage cert from Weymouth and it was not the right one.

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Re: KENT OPC
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 August 04 12:04 UTC (UK) »

Michelle.

John bushrod - At some stage prior to the birth of his son John 1870 the family moved to Kent. The Son John moved back to Dorset - reason unknown.

I found a John Bushrod marriage to Eliza Norris 10/12/184 at Melcombe Regis/Weymouth which looked good, but the certificate is inconclusive leaning towards not the right one. This john is shown as being a Stone Mason with his Father also called John and also a Stone Mason. My John was a labourer and all evidence suggestes this was agricultural based.
The cert of says both are of "Full age" and both Widowed, this leads me to suspect their were both getting on a bit. My John would have been around 22 at the time of this marriage.

This is one of the frustrating ones where you "know" there is a connection to the Bushrod clan in Broadmayne but just cannot find that link.

I have not yet found anyone that has access to the 1841 Census of Broadmayne, you are the first.
His fathers name, If they followed the trend then Its likely to be John also, which really helps, but I have nothing to go on.

There is also the possability that he was born in Broadmayne but at the time of the Census there were elsewhere.

The information regarding John came via my Cousin who is a Bushrod, he got it from Denise Coppin (née Bushrod) who has a site that you may have seen. I surpose I should really contact her and ask.

What was the birth date of you James ?? Would it put him in the same generation as John

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Re: KENT OPC
« Reply #7 on: Friday 06 August 04 10:22 UTC (UK) »

Adrian

We are off today for a weekend break so I will have a dig around when I get back.
On the 1841 census there are 18 pages for Broadmayne and about 12 of them are unreadable!
I was in contact for a short while with Denise Coppin 5 or 6 years ago.  I haven't  as yet done much on my Bushrod line, just dabbled here and there and have none of it on the computer. 
I do remember coming across a stone masson but his christian name escapes me at the moment, old age no doubt.
I saw the  USA Bushrod site, do you think the New Forest tree planters thing is right?
With the earliest (that I know of) Bushrod being recorded as Bushrot I wondered if it might not be a Norman name, just a guess.
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Re: KENT OPC
« Reply #8 on: Friday 06 August 04 11:28 UTC (UK) »

Michelle.

Have a good weekend, hopefully its going to be nice.

The New Forest Tree explination, is possible but as they do not give detail of how its arrived at ie the Bush is Saxon for Tree palanter or such, then its a bit take it or leave it for me.

Bushrot is interesting, is it spelt that way on different generations or just one ?  If you assume its not a literacy error then its possibly is imported. Outside nobility doubt if there was great influxes of migrant Normans to England for a good few years after the conquest. Probably too risky, the Saxons would not have been too welcoming methinks. Expect it to be much older than Norman if it is an "English" name, probably Angel or Saxon.

I must adnit I am bit like you, have not done that much on the Bushrod line as it is my paternal Grandmothers family line. Most of what I have came from a cousin.
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« Reply #9 on: Friday 06 August 04 13:36 UTC (UK) »

Adrian,

I couldn't resist a quick look for the stone mason Bushrods.  It's no help but they were a William Bushrod at 8 1/2 St Mary St, Weymouth/Malcombe Regis and Jesse Bushrod High East St, Dorchester 1830 directory.  1903 a R Bushrod Knighton West, Dorchester also a stone mason.

I have the 41,51,61,71,81 and 91 census for Dorset, so let me know which ones you have already looked at.

The Bushrot was on the tree Denise gave me, Bushrot was father of John Bushrot (died1590 Sherborne) Henry Bushrode (died 1614 Craford) William Bushrod. I have not checked any of this information.
The Bushrods are on my maternal side.  My gg grandfather James Trevett Bushrod was born c1855 Broadmayne, he was a journeyman Mason, son of James(c1820 Broadmayne) and Mary.
I really must go and pack now,
Michelle
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Re: KENT OPC
« Reply #10 on: Friday 06 August 04 14:22 UTC (UK) »

Michelle,

For when your back.

This is what I have so far:-

1/ John b 1832 Broadmayne married Eliza ?? b 1841 Sutton Valance
(Have been unable to trace when/where they married)
6 Children:
a) Thomas b 1864 Wormshill, Kent
b) Jeffery b 1869 Wormshill
c) John b 1870 Broadmayne
d) Mercy b 1871 Wormshill
e) Sara Jane b 1872 Wormshill
f) Elizabeth b 1878 Wormshill

John b 1870 Broadmayne, Dorset married Rosa Huh b 1876 Dalewood, Devon. I have as yet been unable to trace the marriage records. At the time of the 1901 Census John & Rosa were living at Coombe, Litton Cheney, Dorset. He was employed as a Dairyman. They had two sons Andrew b 1894 Friar Mayne, Dorset and Edward G b 1901 Litton Cheney.    (RG13 2012  62 11 schedule 74)

As you can see All the children except John jnr were born in Kent.
I assume John was born durning a holiday/visit to relatives and family ties was also the reason he went back to Dorset.

They must have moved to Kent prior to 1864, so anything you can find on the 1841 and 1851 Census would be great. My goal is to find John Snrs parents and hopefully link into the rest of the Bushrods in Broadmayne.

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Re: KENT OPC
« Reply #11 on: Monday 09 August 04 14:49 UTC (UK) »

Hello Adrian,

I have had another look at the 1841 census and in Broadmayne there is only one Bushrod family John 40, Ann 40, Mary? 15, male 14, male 13, Emma 7, female 4.  As I said before some of the pages are illegible so there may be more there.
I will keep an eye out for your John, he may turn up in another parish.
The 1851 census which is indexed, makes life a lot easier, but only has only 5 John Bushrods for the whole of Dorset. John 54 Builder Broadmayne, John 22 Ag Lab Broadmayne wife Sarah 22 son Frank 11 months, John 54 Ag lab Coombe + John 5 months, John 38 Mason Broadmayne (my family)
Sorry I couldn't be of more help, I will let you know if I come across anything.
Bye for now
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Re: KENT OPC
« Reply #12 on: Monday 09 August 04 19:35 UTC (UK) »

Michelle

My John would have been 19, so that means the family were elsewhere in Dorset in 1851 or they had already moved to Kent. I seriously doubt it was the latter as there is no record to suggest more moved to Kent (Unless John moved on his own).

My gut feeling is the family were elsewhere in Dorset. The names of villages around Broadmayne crop up a few times in the research, and with him being an Agricultural labourer its likely they moved around a bit.

Appreciate your help on this.

Adrian
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Re: KENT OPC
« Reply #13 on: Monday 09 August 04 22:16 UTC (UK) »

Adrian

I have looked for any male that is over 36 for a possible father for John on the 1851 census.
Henry Bushrod 38 born Broadmayne mason living Broadmayne
Jane 34                       ''      ''
Mary Ann 25                ''      ''              Ag Lab
Thomas 28                  ''      ''              Ag Lab
Elizabeth 18                ''      ''              Ag Lab

Henry 42                     ''       ''            mason     living Broadmayne
George 24                   ''       ''           Bricklayer
Charles 8                    ''        ''            Scholar
Mary 63                       ''       ''

James 52                     ''        ''   Innkeeper living Upway
Ruth 58                       ''    Upway
Martha 14                    ''   Upway

John 54                        ''  Broadmayne  living Broadmayne
Ann 54                         ''        ''
Caroline 28                   ''       ''
Charles 24                   ''        ''
Clara 14                       ''       ''
Emma16                       ''       ''

John 38                         ''       '' mason   living Broadmayne
James 30
Amelia 10
Elizabeth 17
George Jas 5 months
Hannah 5
Lydia 38 born Whitcombe
Mary 29
Robert 15
Rosina 4
William 6

Samuel 57  born  Broadmayne Bricklayer living Broadmayne
Jane 58
Bethia 17
Sarah 14

and finally some in Coombe Keynes
John 54 Coombe Ag Lab
Ann 4   
Austin 7
Daniel 22 Ag lab
George 2
Martha 53 born Steeple
Martha 18
Mary 46 born Derison?
William 50 born Stoke Ag lab/carter

the only other Bushrods in Coombe,
James 27 born coombe farm lab
Jane 28
John 5 months.

I also had a look on the 1841 for Coombe and found
John 40 Gamekeeper
Martha 40
Richard 14
David 10
I thought John might have turned up there but no luck.  This is all the male Bushrods over 35 in Dorset.  John must have been in a diffrent county or was missed off the census. Do you think it might be his family at Coombe?

Michelle
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Re: KENT OPC
« Reply #14 on: Monday 09 August 04 22:54 UTC (UK) »

Wow, thats for doing that.

I think I must now assume that John may have been in Kent, our previous searches may have been too late as we thought he did not move until much later.

His Son John Jnr went to live back in Dorset and was at Coombe on the 1901 Census, as I thought there must have been a good reason why he moved back, having his granparents there may be relevant.

Mind you the first one John 38 looks interesting, pitty he was only 10 when my John was born - My John had a son named Thomas and a daughter named Elizabeth - no Mary Ann alas....bit of a tenious link but names do tend to be common in families.

Maybe I need to ask the local Registrar if they can find a birth certificate - long shot but may prove fruitful.

Adrian

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