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Topic: F.A.O. Crowboy Langley Of Uppingham (Read 474 times)
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smudger28
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Hello Guys
I have had a Private post from someone in austrailia asking for help so I have decided to post it on the main board for all to see in case someone else is looking for the same family.
UPPINGHAM RUTLAND - LANGLEY
I am not sure whether you can help me but let's give it a try shall we?
At the 1851 Census I have located a Thomas Langley (potentially my Great Great Grand-Father) and family living at Hog Hill, Uppingham, Rutland.
Thomas Langley, Male, 43, Married, Cabinetmaker
Jemima Langley, Female, 44, Married
Rebecca Langley, Female, 15
James Langley, Male, 11
Richard Langley, Male, 10
Thomas Langley, Male, 3
Also at the 1851 Census I have located a John Langley (brother of Thomas?) living at High Street, Uppingham, Rutland.
John Langley, Male, 34, Married,Cabinetmaker
Eliza Langley, Female, 36, Married
Mary E Langley, Female, 7
William Langley, Male, 3
Jane Langley, Female, 1
Elizabeth Langley, Female, 79, Widow
Batty Langley, Male, 17, Nephew (possibly the son of Thomas??)
I am hoping that your access to 1841 Census will confirm that the family was in Uppingham in 1841 and confirm the existence of a further son of Thomas and Jemima named William (my Great Great Grand-Father) whom I believe was born in 1832. (therefore aged about 9 in 1841) but was not listed in 1851. I might also confirm that Batty Langley (born 1834) is also the son of Thomas and Jemima (maiden name unknown).
The Rutland Marriage Index may alo provide a lead on marriage details for Thomas b1807/8 and Jemima b1806/7.
If this is unsuccesful my next line of research will need to be the 1841 Census or church/parish records of William's birth.
I await your advice. Please let me know if this request is too demanding, you require more information or whether I am on the wrong track in my research. Kind of new to this game especially on the internet.
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Cornwall: Hoare, Hoar, Mallet, Mallett, Davey, Cock Leicester (Croxton K)Ward Lincolnshire: Smith, Moss, Baxter Rutland: Dexter, Hill, Green, Fowler, Smith, Ward, Vernum, Lattimore, Chappell, Turner, Burrows Northamtonshire: Baxter, Smith South Africa: Moss, Dominey, Dominy, Domeney Requests: 1841 Rutland Census Look Ups Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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smudger28
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OK CB
Here is one family 1841 Census
Uppingham
High St
Thomas Langley 33 Cabinet maker Born in county Y
Jemima 34 Y
Elizabeth 10 Y
William 9 Y
Batty 7 Y
Rebecca 5 Y
John 4 *NB there is a note on this location which is hard to read
James 2 Y
Richard 1 Y
There is a family next door
William Langley 60 Auctioneer Y
Elizabeth 65 N
I have checked the Rutland marriages and cannot find Jemima's marriage to Thomas.
I checked the strays register and no luck there either!
I still need to find the other family who lived at Hog Hill.
I think that the child called Batty is a big clue as to the surname of Jemima. I have found this with unusual names. One of my recent maiden names was Clarke and a child was called Clarke.
I will do some more digging. In the meantime someone else might help you out.
Paul
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Cornwall: Hoare, Hoar, Mallet, Mallett, Davey, Cock Leicester (Croxton K)Ward Lincolnshire: Smith, Moss, Baxter Rutland: Dexter, Hill, Green, Fowler, Smith, Ward, Vernum, Lattimore, Chappell, Turner, Burrows Northamtonshire: Baxter, Smith South Africa: Moss, Dominey, Dominy, Domeney Requests: 1841 Rutland Census Look Ups Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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smudger28
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Mike can look up 61, 71, 91 & 01 for you
Hello mike are you there please.
You could get a clue in other census as to Jemima's maiden name.
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Cornwall: Hoare, Hoar, Mallet, Mallett, Davey, Cock Leicester (Croxton K)Ward Lincolnshire: Smith, Moss, Baxter Rutland: Dexter, Hill, Green, Fowler, Smith, Ward, Vernum, Lattimore, Chappell, Turner, Burrows Northamtonshire: Baxter, Smith South Africa: Moss, Dominey, Dominy, Domeney Requests: 1841 Rutland Census Look Ups Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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smudger28
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Hi Mike
I have checked Ayston but no Langleys 
If I have time I will go through the uppingham area to see if I can spot the other Langley family!
I think Crowboy will have to check the Uppingham parish registers for Jemimas marriage. I cannot find it on the IGI or my Rutland marriage fiche.
Crowboy
You can order microfiche from the Leicester and Rutland record office at £3.50 each. If you email them they will send you a list of fiche available for that parish.
Try Jo Buckley on JBuckley@leics.gov.uk she deals with all the microfiche orders.
Paul
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Cornwall: Hoare, Hoar, Mallet, Mallett, Davey, Cock Leicester (Croxton K)Ward Lincolnshire: Smith, Moss, Baxter Rutland: Dexter, Hill, Green, Fowler, Smith, Ward, Vernum, Lattimore, Chappell, Turner, Burrows Northamtonshire: Baxter, Smith South Africa: Moss, Dominey, Dominy, Domeney Requests: 1841 Rutland Census Look Ups Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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crowboy97
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You guys are legends. I really appreciate you checking this out so soon and replying instantly.
William Langley aged 9 at the 1841 Census was what I needed in the first instance. I had previously located him at Liverpool in the 1881 Census and knew he came from Uppingham Rutland but was unsure if he was in fact the son of Thomas and Jemima and sibling of Batty et al. I do not think Batty was a maiden name derivative but therein lies some more research.
I note the 1841 references provided show Thomas and family at High Street, Uppingham but the reference I have obtained for 1851 has it as Hog Hill. It looks like Thomas & family moved out to Hog Hill and John & family moved into High Street.
I will be pursuing lines of enquiry which will confirm William's birth and Thomas and Jemima's marriage. There are a few other loose ends to tie up.
Thanks again Smudger28 and Mike of Leicester for all the useful information.
Crowboy97
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Langley (Rutland, Lancashire, Northamptonshire, Derbyshire, South Australia); Mallett, Mallet, Cowling, (Cornwall, South Australia, Victoria, Qld); Turner, Onyon (Lincolnshire); Harden, Hearden (Essex); Bradley (Lancashire); Palmer (Devonshire) Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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burkefam04
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Hi All
I was delighted to come across this particular thread whilst doing research on my Great Grandmother Sarah Langley who was born in Liverpool in 1873.Ref the 1881 census her parents were James and Ellen Langley.James who would be my Great Great Grandfather was born in Uppingham,Rutlandshire in 1840.I was able to determine my Great Grandmothers birth date / birth place from the Irish 1911 Census which is now available online.Her brother Thomas born in 1878 i am led to believe lived in the same area in Ireland.
I would be most grateful if anyone on this thread has come up with any new information and could advise same asap.
PS Smudger28 i was just wondering are you still in contact with the person in Australia as it would be nice to exchange any information that might be new and relevant.
Also the note on John Aged 4 which you are unable to make out is 'America'.
Many thanks,
Paul
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crowboy97
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Greetings Paul,
I have sometimes wondered about current descendants of James Langley and Ellen Pembrook (Pembroke). According to my research James was baptised in Uppingham in 1839 and married Ellen Pembrook (born 1846) in Liverpool in 1867. They had 9 children including a daughter Sarah born 1872 in Prescot, Lancashire . I was not aware of any Irish connection though. They migrated to Canada soon after the 1881 English census. You can reply to me here or via a personal message.
Regards
Crowboy
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Langley (Rutland, Lancashire, Northamptonshire, Derbyshire, South Australia); Mallett, Mallet, Cowling, (Cornwall, South Australia, Victoria, Qld); Turner, Onyon (Lincolnshire); Harden, Hearden (Essex); Bradley (Lancashire); Palmer (Devonshire) Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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burkefam04
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Hi Crowboy
Thanks for the update and very prompt reply.
The information that i initially garnered from the 1911 Irish Census and instigated my research was that my Great Grandmother Sarah Langley was born in Liverpool in 1873 / married in 1903 and her brother Thomas was born in England(no specific location)in 1878.The cornerstone of my investigation was the 1881 freeview census on findmypast.com.This refers to a Sarah Langley born in St.Helens in Lancashire in 1873 and a Thomas Langley born in Sheffield in 1878.Though not definitive this in my opinion was the closest information that had all the ticks in the right boxes.The fact that you mention that the family emigrated to Canada post 1881 census obviously suggests an area that i will have to investigate further i.e the gap between 1881+ and her marriage in 1903.
At the end of the day i may be barking up the wrong tree but from the research i have done so far this has proven to be the area of greatest potential and promise.
Kind regards,
Paul
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