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Phoenix Place, Shrewsbury
« on: Tuesday 19 July 05 14:10 BST (UK) »

Has anyone a plan of the houses and numbers which used to be in the original Place. My Grandfather and Grandmother lived at no 17 Phoenix Place in 1910.

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Re: Phoenix Place, Shrewsbury
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 July 05 20:10 BST (UK) »

Hi George

I've had a look at my map and the only Phoenix I can find is Phoenix Passage.  Could that be the same place?  Do you know which area of Shrewsbury it was in?

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Re: Phoenix Place, Shrewsbury
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 04 August 05 22:53 BST (UK) »

Hi George

Have a look at this link

http://www.mythstories.com/shutst.html

and on the map you will see Phoenix Place which runs from Mardol to Roushill.  Click on Phoenix Place and read the story!!!

"History of the Shut

Phoenix Place leads into the heart of Victorian Shrewsbury's red light area, Roushill, from its entrance on the Mardol"
Grin Grin Grin Grin


Jan

P.S. On a serious note, you could also try the Shropshire Archives in Shrewsbury  http://www.shropshire.gov.uk/archives.nsf
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Re: Phoenix Place, Shrewsbury
« Reply #3 on: Friday 05 August 05 11:58 BST (UK) »

Hi George and Jan

From the description, Phoenix Place and the modern Phoenix Passage are the same place.  I'll have a look at it when I'm down that end of town but I don't think there are houses there now.  I'm fairly sure it is just an alleyway. 

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Re: Phoenix Place, Shrewsbury
« Reply #4 on: Friday 05 August 05 22:36 BST (UK) »

Hi Monica

I'm sure it's just an alleyway too!!! and if it's the one I'm thinking of I don't think it exists anymore.  Isn't it at the back of the new development of apartments that is being built on Roushill?

Jan
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Re: Phoenix Place, Shrewsbury
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 August 05 22:10 BST (UK) »

Hi Jan

Oh dear - the town's changing too quickly!  I don't get into town too often as my health isn't at its best at the moment BUT if I don't get in to wander around soon I may not be able to find my way round.

I've got a couple of books of photos of Shrewsbury over the years and I'm sure people felt the same in the past when huge areas were flattened for redevelopment. 

Monica
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Re: Phoenix Place, Shrewsbury
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 25 September 05 18:36 BST (UK) »

I've been reading about all the various shuts and passages in my hometown and remember this thread.

Woodworth, you should find this link interesting http://shrewsburyforum.co.uk/ar/t331.htm

Full details and photos of Phoenix Place.

Jan
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Re: Phoenix Place, Shrewsbury
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 25 September 05 22:52 BST (UK) »

Jan

What a good site - and the photos are really good.  I'm glad the shut isn't getting swallowed up by the new development.

Monica
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GARVEY and GRAHAM - Mayo.
HUBBARD - Birmingham.
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Re: Phoenix Place, Shrewsbury
« Reply #8 on: Monday 26 September 05 10:12 BST (UK) »

H Monica

Yes, it is a good site.  I spent a long time yesterday afternoon reading all about the Shuts.  I found it fascinating, and to think that I have lived here all my life and only used a few of them.


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Re: Phoenix Place, Shrewsbury
« Reply #9 on: Monday 26 September 05 20:36 BST (UK) »

Hi Thanks to everyone.

I am pleased that a little part of the history has been preserved, I will take a visit when all building work has been completed. Wonderful sites, I am still looking for the original layout of Phoenix place and the house numbers

Thanks again

George
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Re: Phoenix Place, Shrewsbury
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 12 November 05 18:19 GMT (UK) »

Hello,

Phoenix Place has also been known as Shackleton's Shut and Mason's Shut.

when Radio Shropshire did a programme called the century speaks they interviewed a family about their time living there.

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