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Topic: Marriages Look Up's Pre.1839> St Hilary Liscard (Read 8606 times)
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Joan Rines
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Hi Celia... thanks so much.
The last known address for John Morris was
353 Rake Lane, Liscard on 26 Aug 1885. I did not find them there for the 1881 census, but I did find a John Morris/40 b. 1841 Denbigh/mason/mar/lodging
at Pencrug, Llangadock, Carmarthen who seems to be the only one I could find that fit the bill.
They emigrated in 1887 to Portland, Maine.
Thanks again for all the help. Joan
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HAWTHORNE, BURCHILL, BRENNAN, LINEHAN, POWELL, LYNCH, DOBBINS, SCHOOLS, McCARTHY, RINES - Ire & Scot.
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celia
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Hi Joan
no wonder i couldn't find him on the on line directories earlier this evening  Looks like you may have found him. So If this is him you now know he was married in/by 1881
If he was welsh he might have been visiting relatives.Was his wife welsh?Then like today you will find that most women get married from home.So if i don't find a marriage next week.Maybe you should look in her hometown/ Birthplace for the marriage.
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Joan Rines
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Hi Celia.... Yes, they were Welsh. But all I know is that John was from Denbighshire. Nothing about Elizabeth Hughes.... and there are thousands of them! I can't even narrow them down to a town. They're such common names. No sons to glean a family name. I've found a few towns that have a few of the odder family names- Constance, Dorothea & Ruth- but nothing concrete. I have both Eliz. II and Harriette Agnes born in Wallasey by 1884. Is it odd to have first marriages at 42 & 36 yrs.old?
Thanks again, Joan
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HAWTHORNE, BURCHILL, BRENNAN, LINEHAN, POWELL, LYNCH, DOBBINS, SCHOOLS, McCARTHY, RINES - Ire & Scot.
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celia
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Hi Joan
I had a look in the Wallasey marriages there was a marriage in 1882/3 for a John Morris but the wife didn't match even though there were other female Hugh's Marriages (was that her full name) . I also looked In the street and postal directories to see if i could find him.I found two Johns different addresses but no initials, before 1885. If a person moved round a lot and lived with others i am not sure if they would be included in the postal directories.usually it is only the owner or the renter of a house that is mentioned, as far as i know.The other difficult thing is that in the earlier directories in wallasey & Birkenhead area.Houses were not numbered they were named. Because a lot were cottages so had names like Rose cottage,Brick cottage and so on.Sorry i couldnt be of
more help.
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Joan Rines
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Thanks for all your help, Celia. It's really appreciated. Joan
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jonessa
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Celia,
Could you have a look for a marriage between Hugh (sometimes called Evan) COLQUITT (various spellings!) and Ann/Nancy OWEN/OWENS in the early 1830s? Their first (?) child Catherine/Katherine was christened in Wallasey (presumably St Hilary's) in 1835. Ann/Nancy was from Moreton, but all the children were born in New Brighton or Egremont so the marriage could be Wallasey as I can't find it in Bidston.
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Sheila
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celia
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Hello Sheila
If Catherine was Christened in St Hilary,Liscard Wallasey Which is C.O.E that is where the couple would have probably Married.You don't usually marry in one church and C the children in another, unless you married then moved to another part of the country.For the record, Morton,New Brighton, Egremont & Bidston are in Wallasey and a short distance from each other. I will let you know in a couple of days of any finds.Is there anything else you would like me to look up while i am in the library?
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celia
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Hello Sheila
I will have to change the year on the topic  The Books i look in are the reference books of B.M.D Of the G.R.O. So they only go from the registration year (still new to this:D )
So i couldn't find Hugh,but there is another book i can look in for the marriage.There is an earlier book i think goes back to the beginning of time,very old church It was transcribed by someone many years ago.All with one of those big black typewriters.So i will look in that one,in the meantime i found in the reference book of Marriages that might come into your tree at a later date.
Colquitt. Elizabeth 167 1885 C11/3 St Hilary
John 61 1897 Wallasey St John C1/2
Martha Ann 217 1896 Seacombe St Paul C10/2
Numbers are Vol & Page
I have also copied out 16 Colquitt births from 1840 to 1872 thats only half of them  and 9 deaths from 1840 to 1882 one of them is for a Hugh. So i will translate my writing and type it out then copy it on a post later.
P.S let me know if you want these or not, so i don't do the unnecessary :)or if you just want the deaths
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celia
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Having looked through my posts,it looks like i might confuse someone to look up marriages in wallasey i mainly use two books.One is Marriages in wallasey Plus the Churches that goes from 1800 to 1901 but there are only a few of both those years then all years in between are in it. The other one as said is the G.R.O reference book of marriages in wallasey, and starts later. So if a marriage hasn't been transcribed onto the net i might find it in that book.I also have available at the library the postal directories for Cheshire from 1700 1745 to about 1970.some are missing though. So i am happy to do a look up with those while i am at the library.
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celia
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Hellol Joan
I will be visiting the Library later today so I will have another look for your marraige.
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Joan Rines
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You're a wonderful person, Celia, to help us all so much.
I'll be away for about a month, but I'll look forward to anything you might dig up. Just don't want you to think I'm ignoring you.
Many thanks, Joan
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celia
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Hi Joan
No i would never think that, you are very prompt with your replies.This lets me get the work done
Seeing that you will be away for a month and i went out earlier than expected.I better leave a message or i will have forgotten what i did in another month I did look for the marriage again but still didn't find it  I think i may go further back. I had a look in the directories as well,still no sign. I once saw a notice in one of the books that still makes me smile.It said that all illegal marriage where held by the registrar.How could you be married if it was illegal maybe your couple are in there.Only kidding
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jonessa
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P.S let me know if you want these or not, so i don't do the unnecessary :)or if you just want the deaths Hi Celia, Sorry - I've been offline for a couple of days! Yes, I would very much like the Colquitt records you found, especially the deaths! Many thanks for all your help! Sheila |
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celia
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Hello Sheila
right e.o will get on with it now i will send the deaths first
P.S I will send by P.M as the topc is a marriage lookup 
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celia
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Hi Sheila
How rewarding to know that my find is of use to you.As i have mentioned before.If one relies on the Free & U.K B.M.D
for information.It might be years before it gets transcribed,so if G.R.O.books are available(+ Various F.H.S. church transcriptions) its much quicker than having to to travel to the city lord knows how many times. I will consider other things you mentioned as well and see what i can dig up,scews the pun no need to reply to this post.
I still have to look through the original St Hilary Book of records that go from 1500 there were Earlie records but were to fragile to transcribe.
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