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TonyDolphin
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I have just returned back to my family research after about a ten year lay-off. I would appreciate any help for a silver surfer to catch up on technology :-) AND what is available these days in terms of Parish records?
My previous research stopped with my 2nd Gt. Grandfather Thomas DOLPHIN b. 8/11/1845 (62 Honey St, Aston) who later pops up in various censors. He married Hannah Massey from Cheedle in 1853. Thomas's birth cert. shows his father as John DOLPHIN & mother Elizabeth DOLPHIN nee Wallis both of Aston, Birmingham.
I would appreciate any help - thank you.
Cannot travel to Records office as I reside abroad 
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Tati
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Hi Tony 
Does it give an occupation for John?
The 1861 census has
RG9/2134 20 34
Birmingham
Essex Street
John Dolphin, lodger, wid, 58, Printer (Compositor), b. Tamworth
Thomas, son, 15, Striker Iron, b. B'ham
However, tracing these 2 back to 1851, John's wife is Pheobe:
1851
HO107/2058 307 57
Birmingham, Warwickshire
(sorry, can't read address)
John Dolfin, head, 48, Printer Pressman, b. Warwickshire Tamworth
Phebe, wife, 39, b. Birmingham
James, son, 16, Brass Caster, b. Aston
Ann, dau, 13, b. do.
David, son, 11, Gun Trade, b. do.
William, son, 9, Errand Boy, b. do.
Thomas, son, 6, b. do.
Elizabeth Bradley, lodger, 15, b. Birmingham
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"My dear, I think the English pronounce it 'appiness" Desire and hunger is the fire I breathe Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Tati
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Haha! In 1841 this John's wife is Elizabeth:
1841
HO107/1149/12 5 3
Aston, Warwickshire
Duddeston & Nechells
Bloomsbury Street
John Dolphin, 35, Printer J
Elizabeth, 25
John, 7
James, 5
Ann, 3
David, 1
All born in county
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TonyDolphin
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Thank you Tati,
All the information you have posted fits in with other information I already have, also I can progress the family though birth certificates up to the present day.
I did not know about the remarriage of John in 1849 to Phoebe or her subsequent death by the 1861 census when he is shown as a widower and a lodger but still a printer. Also it shows him being born at Tamworth.
It is I think quite possible that the birth you found in 1803 could well be him. Tamworth I would imagine would have have been a very small town at that time and there would not have been many John Dolphin's to speak of?
It does give me lots of food for thought - and avenues for probing further.
Before I left the UK I gave all my reseach documents to a relative so I will have to get copies of all the birth certificates etc and start to back trace and prove the links.
Once again many thanks for your help.
Tony D
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TonyDolphin
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Thanks Denise,
That fills in some more gaps, this is going to cost me a fortune in birth certificates
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TonyDolphin
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I have managed to find a David & Ann (nee Edwards) Dolphin married on 9/10/1786.
But I now have a bit of a dilema inasmuch that thier place of marriage and subsiquent children, (Other children James, Ann, Hannah, David) are all shown as being born at TaNworth, Warrickshire. I find there is a place called Tanworth south of Birmingham.
Has the LDS confused the two and they are different families. If the latter then is the date of birth of John shown 3/10/1802 at Tamworth valid? And does the trail on LDS finish with him at Tamworth as he may not be related to John & Ann from Tanworth despite the cross indexing on the LDS.
Beam me up Scotty ....
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TonyDolphin
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Moderator - can you plase close this link and I will start a new thread regarding the Dolphin's in Tamworth. Thank you.
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DolphIn TanworthIA
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Hello
I am a descendant of the Dolphin family of the village of TANWORTH in Warwickshire now known as Tanworth in Arden and I still live in the parish. The Dolphin family have been in the area since the 11th century. I am have an enormousness amount of info and photos and still live on land that the family once owned. John DOLPHIN was the son of David son of David, son of John.
John had been married to A
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DolphIn TanworthIA
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Hello
I am a descendant of the Dolphin family of the village of TANWORTH in Warwickshire now known as Tanworth in Arden and I still live in the parish. The Dolphin family have been in the area since the 11th century. I am have an enormousness amount of info and photos and still live on land that the family once owned. John DOLPHIN was the son of David son of David, son of John. After which time the family drifted backwards and forwards over the Worcester border into Yardley and also Redditch.
John had been married to Susanna DEITZ and had 2 children DavidHenry and Sophia. David jnr died and along with Susanna, he then ,married Elizabeth WALLIS, they had John, James,Ann, William , David, William,and Thomas. Jon DOLKPHIN then married PHEBE BRADLEY Nee DANGERFIELD.
If you would like to know more please repl and I will gladly share any info.
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DolphIn TanworthIA
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Hello
I am a descendant of the Dolphin family of the village of TANWORTH in Warwickshire now known as Tanworth in Arden and I still live in the parish. The Dolphin family have been in the area since the 11th century. I am have an enormousness amount of info and photos and still live on land that the family once owned. John DOLPHIN was the son of David son of David, son of John. After which time the family drifted backwards and forwards over the Worcester border into Yardley and also Redditch.
John had been married to Susanna DEITZ and had 2 children DavidHenry and Sophia. David jnr died and along with Susanna, he then ,married Elizabeth WALLIS, they had John, James,Ann, William , David, William,and Thomas. Jon DOLK
HIN then married PHEBE BRADLEY Nee DANGERFIELD.
If you would like to know more please repl and I will gladly share any info.
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DolphIn TanworthIA
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Hello
I am a descendant of the Dolphin family of the village of TANWORTH in Warwickshire now known as Tanworth in Arden and I still live in the parish. The Dolphin family have been in the area since the 11th century. I am have an enormousness amount of info and photos and still live on land that the family once owned. John DOLPHIN was the son of David son of David, son of John. Priorto this time the family drifted backwards and forwards over the Worcester border into Yardley and also Redditch.
John had been married to Susanna DEITZ and had 2 children DavidHenry and Sophia. David jnr died and along with Susanna, he then married Elizabeth WALLIS, they had John, James,Ann, William , David, William,and Thomas. Jon DOLHIN then married PHEBE BRADLEY Nee DANGERFIELD.
If you would like to know more please repl and I will gladly share any info.
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TonyDolphin
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Oh my Lord!
I think we may need to communicate. I have just had a reply from a gentleman who kindly went into the records office and found the following information for me:- Quote
'These are from the parish records of Tanworth in Arden, there was no Dolphins in the Tamworth Warwickshire parish records between 1895 to 1805.
Baptism No 32 John son of David and Ann Dolphin Gct 3rd 1802. The fathers name David was not very clear so as proof the marriage record for the parents is Tanworth Page 96 no. 381 David Dolphin to Ann Edwards by license on 9th October 1786 in presence of Nancy Waring John Edwards.' Unquote.
It would appear that we may be related by the above mentioned John son of David
I have quite a bit on our family after John's son Thomas, who had a son also called Thomes my grandfather. It would appear that at some time Thomas son of John married and moved to Birmingham the Thomas son of Thomas moved to Walsall - whence my father was born.
I'm lost for words ...........
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