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Shropshire Archives/Lookup
« on: Thursday 21 July 05 07:17 BST (UK) »

If anyone is going to the Shropshire Archives to do some research, would they be able to assist me in doing a copy of a will. I have the reference No.

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« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 27 July 05 00:12 BST (UK) »

Hi David,

I hope to be going in the next 2 weeks - if no one else is going sooner PM me with the details - and I will see what I can find.

Cheers

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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 27 July 05 01:09 BST (UK) »

Hello Keith:
I was just reading your reply to David. I was wondering if you could look up a marriage for me? Only if you have time. I tried to find it when I was at Salt Lake in April but could not come up with it.  The information from the free BMD site is as follows.

Sept. 1837
Vol. 19  Pg. 179
Shrewbury

Richard  HOTCHKISS
Sarah    LATEWARD


I am trying to confirm who the father is of Richard Hotchkiss.  As Richard and Sarah's daughter Mary Ann Hotchkiss married William Hotchkiss (son of John Hotchkiss). Mary Ann and Willam Hotchkiss are my 3xgrgrandparents.

Thank you very much, but remember only if you have a few spare minutes.

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Anne
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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 27 July 05 18:10 BST (UK) »

Hi Ann,

No problem (I hope!!)

Will see what I can find - I have no relations in Shropshire as you will see if you kindly pay MY website a visit! (hint - hint - http://batemans-history.rootschat.net) - but am going to try to find some details out for another researcher in Australia - so it's getting a very cosmopolitan day out!!

Anything else if I have more than a few minutes!?  Cheesy Cheesy

Cheers

Keith
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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 July 05 00:01 BST (UK) »

Hello Keith:
Thank you very much for offering to do the marriage look up for me. I really appreciate it. Just had a quick look at your website. Looks very good, I will check back in later tonight to have a good look. I am  also researching in the Manchester area. But have just started on that. thanks for the offer of looking something else up but if you can just find this marriage it would be great. Once I find out who is the father to Richard then I can carry on and I would know for sure that I am on the right line.

thanks again

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Anne
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 July 05 19:42 BST (UK) »

Keith - I have just taken a look at your site.  I love the color scheme and the layout is really clear.  You have done a fantastic job!  I just wish you were searching the same names as me.

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 02 August 05 04:59 BST (UK) »

Hello Keith:
I wonder if I can add another marriage look up?  I am trying to find the marriage of John Hotchkiss to Emma Hotchkiss. I am pretty sure it is in Condover, Shropshire.

As John's first with Mary Hotchkiss died in the 1879 in condover and on the 1881 census for condover John is married to Emma. So it would say they married not long after Mary died.  I know for sure Emma's maiden name is Hotchkiss as in her will when she died 1900 she left money to her brother Jerimah Hotchkiss.  I have tired looking on free bmd site and could not come up with a marriage for John and Emma.

Like my other request for a marriage look up it is a Hotchkiss marry a Hotchkiss. It sure makes things interesting research the Hotchkiss surname.
Remember only look if you do have some spare time. Thanks again.

Anne
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 02 August 05 10:23 BST (UK) »

Hello Keith:

Like my other request for a marriage look up it is a Hotchkiss marry a Hotchkiss. It sure makes things interesting research the Hotchkiss surname.
Anne
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Hi Ann,

Will have a look for you - does mean I am only looking for one surname!!
I wonder if they will both be spelt the same way - what are the chances 50/50 !!??  Grin Grin

Cheers

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 02 August 05 14:32 BST (UK) »

Good morning Keith:

I am pretty sure they both have the same surname!!  The only difference would be if Emma was married before. The right spelling is Hotchkiss but it does come spelt many different ways. Plus it looks like it is a very common surname in Shropshire. Census records for 1881, 1891 have it spelt Hotchkiss.

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Anne
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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 03 August 05 22:29 BST (UK) »

Hi Anne,

I think I might have found a few things for you!!

Marriage at St Julians Church, Shrewsbury August 16th 1837 - by License
Richard Hotchkiss abode Wyle Cop, Farmer - father Richard Hotchkiss, Farmer.
to
Sarah Lateward - abode Frodesley - father Richard Lateward, Farmer
in the presence of
John Hotchkiss, Mary Talbort(?), Harriet Hotchkiss.

Will that do - NO - well what about the next marriage in the register!
Same Day.
William Hotchkiss - Shoemaker - abode Wyle Cop - Father Robert Hotchkiss Blacksmith
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Margaret Chiltern - abode Quarry Place, St Chad, Shrewsbury - Father Thomas Chiltern, Wheelwright
Witnessed by
John Hotchkiss, and MARY TALBERT!!!

Will THAT do - No well the bad news is I couldn't find John and Emma marriage in Condover c1880 BUT..
Feb 1st 1881 - Condover - by License - OFA
Thomas Evans - Farmer - abode Sherrif Hales(?) - Father John Evans - farmer
to
Mary Hotchkiss - abode Candover - Father Edward Hotchkiss, farmer.
Witnesses - John Evans - Harriet Hotchkiss
Can't your family do anything by themselves!!
Next entry!!
Feb 3rd 1881
Richard Hotchkiss - Labourer - Condover - Father JOHN MANSELL (Work that out!!)
[I did ask at the archives and they said he probably took his mother's name but admitted his father at the wedding]
to
Ann Humphries (Widow) - Condover - Father Benjamin Corfield
Witnesses - William Jones - Elizabeth Jones.
Will THAT do! - NO Well...
Think you owe NigelG a pint - he asked me to look for some Lloyds in Frodesley in the 1851 census index - there were none there unfortunately - but guess what was there - Yep Hotchkiss!!
Found this lot in Condover District - Frodesley - HO107/1990
Richard Hotchkiss - Head - 42 - Farmer of 183 acres - Hornbury(?)
Sarah       "              Wife  - 33 - Acton Barnoff(?)
Harriet     "             Dau -    13 - Frodesley               (she gets around!!)
Mary Annie  "          Dau   - 10 -      "
Sarah         "           Dau  -    7  -   "
Emma     "               Dau  -    4       "
Harriett LATEWARD - mother in law - widow - 70 - formerly Farmer's wife - Henley(?)
+ 3 servants

If you don't ask you wont receive!!

Hope that keeps you occupied for a bit  Grin Grin

Cheers

Keith
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 03 August 05 22:31 BST (UK) »



WILL duly photographed for David and sent by email

Cheers

Keith
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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 03 August 05 22:51 BST (UK) »

Keith and AnneMc

Just read your Hotchkiss look up with interest.  My two elder children have the Hotchkiss surname.  My first marriage was to a Hotchkiss, and I can confirm that it is a surname that originates from Shropshire.  The spelling (with a tch rather than the other common way dg) is the "Shropshire Spelling"!!

Can I just point out also that Sarah Hotchkiss in the 1851 census Frodesley - her birthplace is ACTON BURNELL.  It is a village just down the road from Frodesley.  In fact I'm going to Acton Burnell on Friday with my children to have a picnic at the Castle!! What a small world Cheesy


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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 03 August 05 22:59 BST (UK) »

Hi Jan,

Thanks for that spelling lesson!!   Grin Grin Grin

I now see what a difficult job the copiers have when they don't know the area!!

I have only just moved to Shropshire - and have no past relatives living here - so the names are all new to me - but Anne will be pleased you told her the correct place - you know what these Canadians are like - if it hasn't got "Bay" after it they don't know where it is!!

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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 03 August 05 23:06 BST (UK) »

Keith:
What can I say but a very big THANK YOU. I can't believe what you found for me. Lots to work on.  I agree with you that I owe Nigel G a pint or maybe a couple!!!!

Now to get working on the information you sent me. Once again a very big thank you.  I must say my Hotchkiss family gets more interesting by the day!!!!

Regards
Anne
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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 03 August 05 23:07 BST (UK) »

Jan:

Sounds like we are researching the same Hotchkiss family. Maybe we should compare notes. My grandmother is Sarah Ann Hotchkiss. And my Hotchkiss line does come from Shropshire.

Hope to hear from you.

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Anne
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