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nora T
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my old dad is convinced his ggggrandad, was the black sheep son of a lord,even though i know different,but i dont push it i let him keep his dreams. Also his latest little bomb shell, was that he said he had been told , the family had money in chancery, whatever that is, do other roots chatters get this,these dreams of greatness from relatives. regards noraT
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i am researching the timmis family salop. staffs, and cheshire, also the culverwell family, congleton cheshire,and staffs.also jervis, jarvis, staffs and wales,also reece, staffs and dudley
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Little Nell
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Hi nora,
Yup, sure do. My gg grandpa swore blind that he was the son of a wealthy building family from Brighton. Nobody believed his stories, since he had no contact with them and his wife threw him out (allegedly) for drinking too much of his pension! However, some 90 years later, I find that there was some truth in the story. His dad was master carpenter, who met an unfortunate end when he tried to stop a runaway cart. Lots of his relatives were master builders/carpenters but best of all his father was the youngest son of a previously wealthy family, who married money for the better part of two centuries and who were also left vast amounts of property and cash by rich bachelor uncles. Sadly it was all sold.
Interestingly, tracing back over the centuries, the family has links to a number of lords and ladies all the way back to medieval times. My grandmother's response (she is not here to know all this) would have been "Ooh, I say."
So my philosophy is never to discount anything you might be told. Somewhere there might just be a grain of truth.
Nell
PS Chancery is a court of law dating from 1348. Apparently any propertied family is almost sure to have been concerned at some time in a Chancery suit. My lot were, the cases are listed in the catalogue of TNA but I haven't got round to looking at it yet. Search the catalogue for the surname and see if you get any hits in the Chancery class ("C" prefix). You could also try searching the catalogue database at
www.a2a.org.uk
It's a brilliant site - descriptions can sometimes give you places of residence or dates when you might look for a will etc.
All the best
Nell
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nora T
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thanks little nell, so there might be a lord culverwell , a bit further back, at the moment , dads [lord] is a silk weaver at congleton cheshire, but that chancery thing has got me interested,i will go to that site you said , and give it a go. thanks again regards nora T
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i am researching the timmis family salop. staffs, and cheshire, also the culverwell family, congleton cheshire,and staffs.also jervis, jarvis, staffs and wales,also reece, staffs and dudley
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nora T
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Oh by the way, little nell, what is the cataloge of TNA and why "c" prefix , sorry to show my ignorance. regards noraT
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Little Nell
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Nora t,
The url for the catalogue at TNA (ex PRO) is
http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk
C stands for....Chancery!!
Hope you find something 
Nell
PS just tried it and got 28 hits in C class records for culverwell - are any of them yours?
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nora T
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first jane, i am very sorry i have not replied sooner , but i have not been to well these last couple of days, so have not been on my p.c., i agree with what you say , and i would dearly love to find my dad his lord, and any money the family might have owing to us .but how far back is this lord, i,m back to 1807 in the culverwell family, with john , and he was a silk weaver, dont you think that some of these family legends, have come down word of mouth for hundreds of years, and maybe got a bit changed on the way down, but still retain a little truth, any way , thanks for your reply, regards hilda
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nora T
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the same here jane, and thanks, i am feeling a lot better regards hilda
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I wouldn't hold out any hopes of being owed any money after all this time! Even today, you have a very limited time (I think it's six months after the Grant of Probate) to make any claim against an estate for precisely this reason - to prevent claims arising decades later. After that, if you have a valid claim you can only sue the administrators or executors IF they didn't advertise in 1 or 2 newspapers local to the deceased (not local to you) before distributing the estate. (I should mention, everyone, that I am not a lawyer, I am a legal secretary, this is all stuff I pick up in the course of my very interesting job - to be sure of where you stand, ALWAYS, but ALWAYS consult a solicitor.)
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Connell (Mayo 19th/20th c) Culling (Norfolk & London 19th c) Diss (Essex) Giesen (UK only 19th/20th c) Green (19th c London/Surrey) Hackney (London) Hughes (Mayo to Burnley, Lancs & Edward, Parachute Regiment) Lister (London) Maltby (Marylebone) Nials Noquet (Huguenot) Phillips (Henry Thomas, of S London b 1901) Poulain Rayner (Essex) Redfearn (London) Silk Speller (White Roding, Essex) Thompson (Eliza Mona, dau of George & Sarah) Thurley Trundle Wade Westley
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nora T
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thanks, miss lizzy, i never thought really i would ever find any long lost money, but thanks for the legal advice it might come in handy one day regards nora T
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