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Kissimmee
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If someone has time when visiting the record office to lookup a birth for me I would appreciate it.
I have had some good results for O'Hara births on the on-line Cambridgeshire site but Rebekal (Rebecca) O'Hara c1820 Chesterton Cambridge doesn't want to be found.
The reason for finding her is to establish that her parents were John Challis O'Hara and Ann(e) then I can join her and all her descendants to my family tree.
I know I am asking a lot but any help will be appreciated.
Thanks Kissimmee
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Essex - Baker, Spriggs, Wade, Bearman, Crosier, Walker, Rolfe, Joslin, Coats Australia - Baker Kent - Chattington, O'Hara, Roffey London - Stevens, Stone, Davies, Walker Cambridge - O'Hara And who knows where else...... Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Hi Doreen
I believe Cambs FHS has transcribed all of the 1801-37 baptisms in Cambs, so if it's not on their index it's unlikely to be in the parish register. I've checked through the CDRom of the index, which has more powerful search capabilities than the website (ie searching against christian name) and there is still nothing for Rebecca/Rebek* with a surname which is remotely like O'Hara. The known offspring of John and John were all baptised/buried at either Cambridge St Mary the Great or St Benedicts, with an additional abode of Sparrows Lane spanning 1816 (baptism of William) to 1834 (burial of Alice). There's no hint of them living at Chesterton which at that time was a parish outside Cambridge.
But there's more than one way of skinning a cat. When did she marry, as if post 1837 the certificate will have her father's name on it? Have you found her in the 1841 census - was she with her parents, alone, or married by then?
Regards
David
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Kissimmee
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Thanks David for checking and all the good advice.
I have just found her marriage on the free BMD - lucky me - Sept 1/4 1837
and I have her on the 1841 & 1851 Census.
I will send for her marriage certificate and that will prove one way or another.
I had found on the 1851 that William Free is listed as step father because I was so eager to claim Rebecca as the daughter of John Challis O'Hara I presumed he was her husband's step father. All will be revealed as soon as I receive the marriage certificate.
Would there be on your CD a death for a young child Isabel Edwards after 1840 and before 1843. I cannot find her on the free BMD. The mystery being that John Challis O'Hara had an Isabel Edwards age 2 with him on the 1841 Census and in 1851 Rebecca has 2 daughters with Isabel in their name.
1841 High St Chesterton HO107/64-2 Folio 9A
William Free 60 ag lab
Elizabeth Free 59
Rebecca Edwards 22 m 1837
All born in Cambs – there are 3 William Edwards but not at home.
1851 HO107/1760 folio 488B
11 Botolph Lane Cambridge
William Edwards head marr 31 gardener b Dullingham Cambs
Rebecca Edwards wife 31 b Chesterton Cambs
Joanna Isabel Edwards dau 9 b Chesterton
Isabel Edwards dau 7 b Everton Beds
William Free stepfather marr 72 lab b Shepreth Cambs
Elizabeth Free wife 68 b Chesterton
Edward Taylor visitor unm 28 lab b St Andrew the Less Cambridge
Is Elizabeth Free William or Rebecca’s mother?
Thanks again
Kissimmee
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Hi Doreen
Hopefully the marriage will settle things one way or the other - there's no William Edwards on the list of possible other halves, but there is a male missing. There is a David Edwards though!!!
I must confess I had assumed that the Frees were Rebecca's mother and step father, purely on the basis that they were living in Chesterton, which is where she is said to have been born, whereas William Edwards was from Dullingham. But their description as Stepfather & wife should strictly apply to the head, William, so it might well be him. If it is Rebecca's mother then puts the kibosh on your theory as not only is her name Elizabeth not Ann but John O'Hara was still alive!
I'm afraid my CDrom is baptisms only, and they only go up to 1837. There's nothing on the NBI either.
Let us know what the marriage cert shows.
Best regards
David
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Kissimmee
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David you have found her husband.
I have found him on every census from 1851 - 1891 as William and have just discovered him on the free BMD as David Edwards.
If you could let me know where you have found him on the 1841 please.
I don't really mind if Elizabeth (Free) is Rebecca's mother the main thing is that I don't add the wrong person to my tree. Only wish I could find someone with her on their tree because I have more information on Rebecca O'Hara than on my own ancestors.
Thanks for everything you found and your comments. It is helpful to hear someone else's ideas.
Kissimmee
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Whoa, slow down!!! That's not what I said.
Wait for the marriage cert - as I said, the FreeBMD transcription is not complete as there are more females than males, so the missing male might still turn out to be William Edwards. And there were no David Edwards of the right age in the 1841 index.
But one thing that did concern me was the gap between the marriage in 1837 and the first child in 1841/2. With most of my ancestors the gap was about 4 months! I did wonder if husband number one might have died soon after the marriage and she had then remarried William Edwards, but I couldn't see any entries on BMD that supported this. Perhaps he had been locked up for a year or two.
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David
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Kissimmee
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Trust me to jump the gun and read into things what I want.
I am still trying to sort out the Isabel Edwards who was age 2 staying with John Challis O'Hara in 1841 which would make her born about 1839. Because it was the 1841 census it doesn't give place of birth. If I find her that also could be worth sending for the certificate. I am wondering that if she was Rebecca's child that she died and she that is why she called her next two daughters Joanne Isabel and Isabel. All will be revealed soon.
Thanks for putting me straight and all the advice.
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