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Topic: Birth of Margaret Broph(e)y - Castletown (Read 1581 times)
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CatOne
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Not long ago I unearthed an Irish ancestor and have no idea how to go about tracing her birth and parents, etc. She came to England and married William Carter in Prestbury, Cheshire in 1836. Her name is Margaret Broph(e)y and she was born c.1816 in Castletown, Queens County.
Thanks for any help.
Catherine 
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seanmac
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Hi Catherine,
There are 5 names of Margaret Brophy in Griffiths Valuation of Laois.
Boley Upper (Clonenagh) Mountrath
Dairyhill (Aghaboe) Borris-in-ossory
Ballynevin (Aghmacart) Mountrath
Harristown Rathdowney
Coolnamony upper (Rearymore) Clonaslee.
Perhape she in among these.
Around the time she was born, Castletown would have been a very small place, it still is, and records may have been slightly off.
Have a look at Griffiths.
Best wishes
Jack
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CatOne
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Thanks for the reply I'd given up hope of finding anything further on my Irish ancestors.
Sorry to sound thick but where would I look up Griffiths valuation?? Is it available online?
Thanks again
Catherine
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seanmac
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Hi Catherine
Yes, its on line,
Griffiths valuation of ireland 1848-1864
Enjoy,
Jack
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CatOne
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Thanks Jack
Have a good day
Regards
Catherine
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anne elizabeth
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Hi, I have replied to you before re Margaret Brophy, just to let you know I am still on your case, I've just discovered that my Brophy's moved around the Castletown area, more that I had realised. I am hoping to came acrss your Margaret when I get another chance to go to Dublin, (I only managed to get back to 1837 before I ran out of time)
Anne
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Brophy, Bergin, Hogan, O'Brien, Lalor, Hughes, Clear, Peters, Bastick all of Queens County Ireland
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anne elizabeth
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Hi, I have replied to you before re Margaret Brophy, just to let you know I am still on your case, I've just discovered that my Brophy's moved around the Castletown area, more that I had realised. I am hoping to came acrss your Margaret when I get another chance to go to Dublin, (I only managed to get back to 1837 before I ran out of time)
Anne
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Brophy, Bergin, Hogan, O'Brien, Lalor, Hughes, Clear, Peters, Bastick all of Queens County Ireland
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CatOne
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Thanks Anne, thats great I'm at a total brickwall with Margaret at the moment
Regards
Catherine
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CatOne
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Thank you so much for those. I'll dig out my file on that family now and see if I can fit them in! Margaret born to Brophy and Ann Cashin seems to be a good match to be mine I think. Castletown was only a small village back then wasnt it, so it wouldn't be likely there'd be a few Margaret Bropheys around the same time?
(do you know what "sponsors" would have done? pay for the christening? godparents?)
Thanks again
Best Wishes
Catherine
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anne elizabeth
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hi
sponsers were the godparents
Catletown is still a small place, the parish of Castletown covers a larger area. The christening in question Margaret Brphy says they live a Rushall, a townland just outside the village.
My dad always says that the Brophy's came from the Pike of Rushall, and this is the first evidence I have of anyone with the name living there. It needs further investigation to say whether we have a connection or not.
Anne
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Brophy, Bergin, Hogan, O'Brien, Lalor, Hughes, Clear, Peters, Bastick all of Queens County Ireland
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seanmac
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Brophy's who had land in 1850 records; Offerlane Parish;
Town of Castletown; Roger Brophy; Land value, £5-5
Knockacoller; Andrew Brophy; £1-5
Monnagh; Thomas Brophy; 10 shillings
Mountainfarm; Michael Brophy; 15 shillings
Michael Brophy; £2-10
Mary Brophy; 5 shillings
Oldborris; Richard Brophy, £3
Rossnaclonagh; Timothy Brophy, £54-15
Rushin; Joseph Brophy, £12
Joseph, 6 shillings
Strahanboy; Anne, 6 shillings
Bughorn; Bridget, 5 shillings
Camross; Mary, £14-10
Churchfield; Mary Brophy 10 shillings
Coolrain; Patrick Brophy, £2-10
Perhaps there are a few relations among those,
Jack
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CatOne
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Thanks for those Jack. Would be interesting to compare the values to todays money. Some would have been considered reasonably comfortable looking at some of those values, wouldn't they?
Unless I can access the parish records though, I don't know how to confirm which, if any, are "mine"
Thanks again
Best Wishes
Catherine
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