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frederick Boyce 1840 birth req
« on: Friday 05 August 05 11:45 BST (UK) »

Request the birth and death details of Frederick Boyce born about 1840 /1841 in West Pennard area f Somerset.
Frederick Boyce is shown on the Ditcheat 1841 census with parents William and Jane Boyce he is 5 months old.

HO/107/943/8 folio 18 page 12
Church Lane , West Pennard

his grandparents Edward and Mary Boyce lived next door to them at time of 1841 census.

Frederick is not listed on the 1851 census with them .
Another son was named Frederick Boyce in June Qtr of 1848.
he is shown as 2 on the 1851 ccensus in Ditcheat
Cant find Fredericks death on FreeBMD between 1841 and 1851. .

any help please.

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Re: frederick Boyce 1840 birth req
« Reply #1 on: Friday 05 August 05 12:49 BST (UK) »


Freebmd is not complete.
Try checking their coverage, then try searching their images for the most obvious gaps.
Otherwise, it's a pay-per-view site to view images or a visit to the fiche at libraries.

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Re: frederick Boyce 1840 birth req
« Reply #2 on: Friday 05 August 05 13:30 BST (UK) »

No Boyce/Boices buried 1841-1851 in West Pennard according to the National burial Index or Ditcheat for the same dates. The index seems to have coverage past 1840 for both these parishes

Censuses can of course get names wrong

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Re: frederick Boyce 1840 birth req
« Reply #3 on: Friday 05 August 05 14:36 BST (UK) »

Thanks valda ,
once again very helpful.
cant understand where this child has disappeared to.
on 1841 census then not 1851.
unless they changed his name and sent him with family to be brought up with them.
Although their daughter Ann is listed on 1851 age 7  in Ditcheat , Street.

most of the info i already have is on my Boyce website

www.boycegenes.4t.com

much appreciated.
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Re: frederick Boyce 1840 birth req
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 August 05 11:50 BST (UK) »

As I said you get mistakes on censuses. Particularly on early census like 1841. So he or even she, may not have been called Frederick in the first place. On the 1841 census I have found the occasional entry I cannot verify in any other record. You need to check the parish registers to be certain (presuming they were not non-conformist).

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Re: frederick Boyce 1840 birth req
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 August 05 14:11 BST (UK) »

Thank you.
hopefully someone in the Somerset area of Ditcheat or West Pennard who will oblige my request of help and see if there is anyone born with that name around 1840/1841.
As he was only 5 months old at the census date in 1841 it may be around December 1840.

thank you for your time and patience whilst helping me in my Boyce research.
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Lewis - Merthyr
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Re: frederick Boyce 1840 birth req
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 25 August 05 02:39 BST (UK) »

The only birth I could find for that period was:

Frederick Boyce Dec 1840 Isle of Thanet (V 430)

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Re: frederick Boyce 1840 birth req
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 25 August 05 19:45 BST (UK) »

thanks brian

where is that place.

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Re: frederick Boyce 1840 birth req
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 25 August 05 20:20 BST (UK) »

In Kent. Comes under Thanet.

http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/REG/ken.htm#than

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Re: frederick Boyce 1840 birth req
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 25 August 05 20:34 BST (UK) »

thanks brian,
dont think it is.

most of my family were born in Somerset areas surrounding Ditcheat such as Evercrech, West Pennard , St Cuthberts Out, Peckingmill, Westcombe ,Stoney Stratton etc....

i have been given info and he was listed on the 1841 census at Church Lane , West Pennard
ref HO107 /943 / 8 FOLIO18 PAGE 12

unfortunately it doesnt state on the info where frederick boyce age 5 months was born.
And i do not have access to somerset disks etc..
any further help will be appreciated.

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Wrench -Bridgwater,Enmore,Broomfield in Somersetshire , Aldbury, Herts, Pontypridd
Sealey / Follett / Wintle of Treforest , Pontypridd
Hunt - Pontypridd & Somerset
Coombes,Cooms,Coombs -Merthyr,Mountain Ash
Lewis - Merthyr
Price - Mountain ash, Abercynon,South Wales
Hewer of Somersetshire
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Re: frederick Boyce 1840 birth req
« Reply #10 on: Friday 26 August 05 01:21 BST (UK) »

The date of the 1841 Census is as follows:
1841, Sunday, 6th June HO 107.

So Fred could have been born in March qtr of 1841 if aged 5 Months in the 1841 Census.

I tried 1837 Online for that period, no luck I'm afraid. Boice or Boyce.!

I must admit, I haven't a clue where to go next other than to eliminate Fred from Thanet!

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Re: frederick Boyce 1840 birth req
« Reply #11 on: Friday 26 August 05 08:28 BST (UK) »

The parish records at the record office?

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Re: frederick Boyce 1840 birth req
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 27 August 05 15:47 BST (UK) »

thanks brian , thanks Valda

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Boyce / Boice - Ditcheat,Evercreech,Shepton Mallet ,Somerset &Wales
Wrench -Bridgwater,Enmore,Broomfield in Somersetshire , Aldbury, Herts, Pontypridd
Sealey / Follett / Wintle of Treforest , Pontypridd
Hunt - Pontypridd & Somerset
Coombes,Cooms,Coombs -Merthyr,Mountain Ash
Lewis - Merthyr
Price - Mountain ash, Abercynon,South Wales
Hewer of Somersetshire
Rowsell - Somerset & Pontypridd
Garland / Cridland - Somerset & Wales
Mounter - Penarth & Kingsbury
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