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dennford
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I know exactly where you are coming from, it is something that can never be ignored - yet to prove one way or the other with so little to go on is almost impossible.
Denn
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol
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duckweed
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I'm interested in what you've said because when I was researching my husbands family in Norton and Greenhill there appears to be a link to the Shores who had the Meersbrook Estate and Norton. My husbands links come through Gill and Shepherd. One branch had married into the Blythes and the Shores. I know Florence Nightingale used to visit the Shores at Meersbrook in her Youth. Her father owned a mill in Carverin Derbyshire so not so far away.
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dennford
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Sorry Gig,
I must have missed this post but yes I have visited the Wirksworth site on many an occasion and have found much to help with my ancestors who mostly come from those parts. Unfortunately it didn't help with the Nightingale link.
Duckweed,
Gill and Shepperd are a couple of names that I don't think cropped up before but I shall have a look again.
Denn
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol
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duckweed
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You probably wouldn't see the names as they come in quite early. The significant name is Gill. The history of the Shores Gills Blythes and Brights are all part of a protestant pro parliamentarian movement. The Shores unfortunately lost their estates when the bank they were part of went bust and they had to see Norton Estate to the industrialist Graves. The Norton Estate now belongs to Sheffield Council apart from the house and is now called Graves Park. The Meersbrook estate was sold off in bits and houses were built there but a portion which has Meersbrook house on and the Blythes house known as Bishops house was bought by Sheffield Council and is now Meersbrook Park. The house once was used as the Ruskin Museum but is now used by the park authorities. This was the house that Florence visited. Our branch comes from the Gills and a brother of the branch that married into the Shores so its not direct line. Our branch had the small manor of Jordanthorpe. The Richer Gills could not get a male heir so their estate, the Oakes passed by marriage to the Bagshawes. There is a site about the Nightingales and the Shores but I can't remember it now.
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dennford
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Duckweed,
That is great. it didn't help much as far as my family line is concerned but I know all those areas of Sheffield and never associated them with these families. A little background helps with the understanding of a place.
Denn
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol
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dennford
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That seems to be the wrong link, it takes me to a web hosting site.
Denn
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol
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duckweed
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Maybe if I give you the title you can try getting it by Google
'Shore Family of Norton Hall /Meersbrook including FN's family'
The persons whose geocite it is is Dwyer Laye. It's a very detailed family tree of the Shores mentioning the Nightingales and other famous Shores. It's an amazing site. I do hope you reach it
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dennford
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That's strange, when I googled and went ther I had no trouble yet the site address is exaclly the same as you gave
http://www.geocities.com/layedwyer/shore.htm
or are my eyes deceiving me?
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol
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duckweed
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Same link. Don't know what happened there. Did you find it interesting. I found it fascinating.
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dennford
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It's the http that is missing.
Yes it is most interesting. one name that crops up is Favell which is unusuall enough to be significant, My mothers first cousin is Flavell - a derivative of the same French name.
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol
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toni*
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this is my thinking:~
Florence Nightingale was born in Florence 12 May 1820 to William Edward and Frances Nightingale
William & Frances were a wealthy couple and toured Europe for 2 years on honeymoon.
Florence had an elder sister Parthenope b. 1819 in Naples
In the summer the nightingale family were based at Lea Hurst Derbyshire and in the winter they were based at Embley in Hampshire
Florence & Parthenope were tuaght at home by their cambridge educated father
can we find the marriage of William Edward Nightingale & Frances can we find their parents by finding their bapt. reocrds and then subsequent siblings?
can we find Florence father William Edward cambridge records (these should be held Either at Cambridge or at the County Record office)
can we find the fmaily in the 1841 census and then follow them through to their subsequent deaths - they may be staying with other family relatives.
Parthenope Nightingale married Earl Verny and in doing so became Lady Verny they lived at Claydon House Bucks who were their children?
is this true?
Harry VERNEY Bt. 2nd [Parents] was born 1 8 Dec 1801 in London, Grosvenor Place, London. He died 12 Feb 1894. Harry married1 Eliza Hope 2 Frances Parthenope NIGHTINGALE on 23 Jun 1858 in East Wellow, Hampshire, England.
Frances Parthenope NIGHTINGALE [Parents] died 1890. She married 1 Harry VERNEY Bt. 2nd on 23 Jun 1858 in East Wellow, Hampshire, England.
lots to explore which might lead you to a connection.
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Hello Denn
I have a Dorothy Dakin bc 1703 at Duffield. Married Joseph Robinson on 3rd Jan 1723 at Duffield. Thats all I know of them. Don't think there is a connection to your Dakins would be nice to think theres a Florence Nightingale link.
This year during our visit to our daughters in Istanbul we visited the Florence Nightingale Museum saw her room at the hospital she worked. It's now an Army Base so security is very tight. Thoroughly enjoyed the experience.
Regards Pam
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duckweed
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I've found some more Shores in my family who came in more recently and am trying to find if they are connected to the Shores at Norton. These Shores are mainly around Wickersley and were Quarry owners and Masons and I believe some owned pits. They seem to have had financial difficulties the same time the Norton Shores had when the bank collapsed but that could just be a coincidence. It's intriguing.
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