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Jane Swan
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Hi
I have a photo that I would like you to improve in whatever way you like. I adjusted the levels to the edge of where the data shows but although it improved I'm confident you can do better.
Jane
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deadants
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I had a go as well but got the same result as Garry. I think the next mystery to solve is what the writing says which has been imprinted into the photo.
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Cleary, Doran, Boland, McCooey, McManus, O'brien, Martin, Savage, Wallis, McCollister, Wood. (More to come soon)
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dennford
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Not much different but an old artists trick to make black is to add a tad of blue
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol
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dennford
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just resting for a while
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oops wrong pic (good job it wasn't anything naughty)
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol
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Jane Swan
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Thanks all. It was rather faint. The original is less than 2" square. I hadn't noticed the writing until you mentioned it.
As usual I now have loads of questions:
Were these photos sharp when first taken?
Are these based on albumen?
Whats the correct name for these photos?
Jane
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Notts: Burrows, Comery, Foster, Beeson, Haynes, Swan. Derbys: Burrows, Comery, Smith Lincs: King. Warks & Salop: Swan, Duffy. Dublin: Duffy, Geraghty, Burgess. Monmouth: Lewis Information contained within Census Lookups is Crown Copyright: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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deadants
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That's better, I almost sent a reply saying i couldn't see any difference. 
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PrueM
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Hi Jane,
This photograph was made using a printing out process. This means that the picture was "developed" using only the action of light, and no chemicals. It would be a gelatine binder, not albumen, and the image-forming material would be silver chloride. The paper would be exposed in contact with a negative until the image was wholly visible, and was then washed and possibly toned.
The advantage of this process was that it became popular around the same time as film negatives (rather than glass) were introduced, and people could now buy little box cameras and load them with film which, when developed, they could use to print their own photos at home. Thus they vary in quality, due to inexact exposure times for the negatives and the print, and difficulty in getting good focus with simple cameras.
You can tell this kind of photo by their image colour (usually this warm reddish-brown) and the reasonably thin paper that was usually not stuck to card. They have the appearance of "snapshots" usually, like just home/family/informal photos. The surface gloss can vary. The warm image colour was because the silver, once it formed the image, was a different size and shape from the silver which formed images in developed prints. Developing prints out created silver which appears to us to be neutral - these are the "true" black and white prints.
As far as dating, you will find these prints from the 1880s through to about the late 1920s.
Hope I made that sound not too confusing!
Prue
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) BIGG (Kent) BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) BRISBANE (Fife) DANKS (STS) DOBSON (BRK) FRANCIS (ESS) GOODE (HAM) HAYNES (Cork) INGRAM (MDX, SOM) LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) MORRISH (LND) NANCARROW (CON) OGILVIE (Moray, LND) STRATHDEE (Banff) SWAN (Fife) WOOD (LND)
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PrueM
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P.S. ....and I think the writing on the back dates your photo to March 10, 1914  Am I right? Dying to know...!!!!
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Paper and Photograph Conservator
I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) BIGG (Kent) BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) BRISBANE (Fife) DANKS (STS) DOBSON (BRK) FRANCIS (ESS) GOODE (HAM) HAYNES (Cork) INGRAM (MDX, SOM) LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) MORRISH (LND) NANCARROW (CON) OGILVIE (Moray, LND) STRATHDEE (Banff) SWAN (Fife) WOOD (LND)
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Jane Swan
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Taken at Godwin
College Margate
Sunday March 10th 1912
The boy front right is my Grandad (Mums Dad). The writing is in pencil.
Jane
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Notts: Burrows, Comery, Foster, Beeson, Haynes, Swan. Derbys: Burrows, Comery, Smith Lincs: King. Warks & Salop: Swan, Duffy. Dublin: Duffy, Geraghty, Burgess. Monmouth: Lewis Information contained within Census Lookups is Crown Copyright: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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only 2 years off
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Paper and Photograph Conservator
I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) BIGG (Kent) BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) BRISBANE (Fife) DANKS (STS) DOBSON (BRK) FRANCIS (ESS) GOODE (HAM) HAYNES (Cork) INGRAM (MDX, SOM) LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) MORRISH (LND) NANCARROW (CON) OGILVIE (Moray, LND) STRATHDEE (Banff) SWAN (Fife) WOOD (LND)
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Jane Swan
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Prue
Well done. I will have to find you another challenge!
Jane
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arnietheother
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I had a go too.
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Jane Swan
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And a good job you did as well. What program do you use? You have managed to get fairly good detail from a dreadfully faded, small photo.
Thanks
Jane
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