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Anjo
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Hi,
I have been tracing descendants of my Allsopp family and I have hit another mystery that I am hoping some bright spark on Rootschat can sort out for me.
1891
George Allsop 54 Gas lab b. Prestwood
Elizabeth " 53 b. Whiston
George " 21 b. Prestwood
Benjamin " 17 b. Prestwood
May " 12 b. Ellastone
GE)RGE E STENDELL 1mt gson b. Lullington
The one mt old gson is my prob. Think this is his surname but who are his parents and where are they.
In 1901 this is the family
Elizabeth Allsopp 61 Widow laundress b. Whiston, Staffs
Benjamin " 27 son b. Prestwood, Staffs
EDWARD STENDELL 10 gson b. Lullington, Derby
CHARLES HENRY STENDELL 8 gson b. Lullinton, Derby
George Allsopp 1 gson b. Longton, Staffs
So now there is another gson from the mystery Stendell family.
(Both census the family were living in Lullington, Derbyshire)
George and Elizabeth Allsop had 3 other daughters (other than May who is on the 1891.
Mary Ann b. abt 1860 Prestwood, Staffs
Elizabeth b. abt 1864 Prestwood, Staffs
Catherine b. abt 1867 Prestwood, Staffs
I am presuming one of these girls is the mother but can't find any marriages or likely candidates on the census or anywhere.
Can anyone help find out who these gsons belong to???
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks Angela
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire. HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich. ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk MACK - london and nottingham. STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Arranroots
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Freebmd has this birth
Charles Henry STENDELL
Burton on Trent
Vol 6b Page 397
Sep q 1892
The cert would tell - but look for parents in the same area on censuses??
kind regards, Arranroots 
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK) |
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Arranroots
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Also George Edward STENDELL
Jun q 1891
Vol 6b Page 399
Burton on Trent
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK) |
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Anjo
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Thanks Arranroots.
Does Burton on Trent district cover Lullington??
They must have been around at least for the 1891 census.
I went through all the pages of Lullington on the 1891 census and couldn't find anything useful.
I am really stuck on this.
thanks for your help
Angela.
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire. HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich. ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk MACK - london and nottingham. STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Arranroots
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Burton upon Trent
Created 1st July 1837. Mainly in Staffordshire, but included parts of Derbyshire.
Sub-districts : Burton upon Trent; Gresley; Repton; Tutbury.
GRO volumes : XVII (1837-51); 6b (1852-1930).
Anslow, Barton under Needwood, Branstone, Burton Extra, Burton upon Trent, Dunstall, Hanbury, Horninglow, Outwoods, Rolleston, Scropton, Stapenhill, Stretton, Tatenhill, Tutbury, Winshill, Wychnor.
From Genuki
Have looked for the surname in Derbyshire, but nothing obvious! There are lots of ALLSOPP marraiges, but none for STENDELL or variant spelling that I could see.
You need a local expert!
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK) |
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Anjo
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Hi again.
Just found out that Lullington is 7 miles south of Burton on Trent so would presume that it is covered.
Still can't find anything else though
All the best Angela
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire. HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich. ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk MACK - london and nottingham. STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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spendlove
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Is this one of the marriages you are looking for:-
from www.freebmd.rootsweb.com
June Quarter 1890 Barnsley, West Riding of Yorkshire
Vol. 9c Pg. 258
Edward Stendell = Elizabeth Allsop. ONLY THE CERTIFICATE WILL TELL IF THIS IS CORRECT.
I cannot find them on a Census.
However 1901 RG13/2455 Pg 26 Sch 111
Adlestrop (St. Mary), Gloucestershire
Stendell Elizabeth Servant Married 42 Cook/Housekeeper Domestic Alton Staffs.
This may be a long shot, (servants often stated younger age) however on the 1861 Census Charles & Mary Ann Allsop are both shown as being born at Alton Staffs.
Hope this does not add to the confusion.
Spendlove.
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Anjo
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Thanks Spendlove,
This is all very interesting stuff. I think before I go any further I will get one of the gsons birth certs and then work from that. Its the only sure way of knowing who his parents were.
Thanks for all your time and effort. Its very much appreciated.
All the best Angela
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire. HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich. ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk MACK - london and nottingham. STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Valda
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1891 census RG12 669 folio 129
Wouldham Hall Wouldham Kent
Stendill, Edward 34 Farmfield, Nottinghamshire, Servant Married Butler
Stendill, Elizabeth 33 Crumpwood, Staffordshire, Married Servant Cook
In the same household
Allsopp, Kate 25 Prestwood, Staffordshire, Servant Single Under housemaid
Regards
Valda
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Anjo
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Valda you are like a guardian angel.
This is wonderful ! Makes it more intriguing but wonderful all the same. It helps make a lot of sense of the family as it was. Edward and Elizabeth obviously couldn't support a family as they were both in service but Elizabeth must have "come home" had a child and then returned to service.
The fact there is a Kate Allsopp there too helps tie it altogether.
Valda you are wonderful. The pieces of my puzzle are finally fitting together.
Thanks Valda and thanks to every one else that has helped.
From a very happy Ange
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire. HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich. ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk MACK - london and nottingham. STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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andyroo2u
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Hello
Charles Henry Stendell is my grandfather, George Edward Stendell is his brother. Their mother's name is Mary Ann Stendell. I'm not sure what their father's name is.
Regards
Andrew Stendell
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Anjo
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Hi and welcome to rootschat
I haven't really done any more on this branch of the family as I haven't got round to getting the birth certs to verify the parents. Very interesting that you can now give me their mothers name. Thats a start.
I will take a fresh look at them later.
Thanks a million
anjo
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire. HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich. ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk MACK - london and nottingham. STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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