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Kimberley
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1861 census lookup for Henry GATER of Hulme
« on: Tuesday 09 August 05 14:57 UTC (UK) »

Request 1861 & 1871 lookup for Henry GATER of Hulme,Lancashire.
An E.Gater won 'Walking Prize' in September 1876 !! I possess the trophy and am trying to ascertain how this came into possession of my family who emigrated in 1877.
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Re: 1861 census lookup for Henry GATER of Hulme
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 August 05 23:08 UTC (UK) »

The only Henry Gater living in Lancashire in 1861 was b Middlesex 1793.  There are none in Lancashire in 1871.

There are no Henry Gater's born Lancashire on either the 1861 or 1871 but there are quite a few born in Staffordshire
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Re: 1861 census lookup for Henry GATER of Hulme
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 10 August 05 10:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi Kimberley

Can you tell us where the Henry Gater and the E Gater are connected?  Or anything else about them to help the search.

I have found one Elizabeth Gater 1859 Congleton Cheshire
one Elizabeth Gater 1829 Runcorn
One Elizabeth Gater 1865 Crewe
and
one Elizabeth A Gater Runcorn

Don't know if any of these could be your E Gater or not.

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Su
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Re: 1861 census lookup for Henry GATER of Hulme
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 October 09 06:57 UTC (UK) »

Hi Kimberley

Can you tell us where the Henry Gater and the E Gater are connected?  Or anything else about them to help the search.

I have found one Elizabeth Gater 1859 Congleton Cheshire
one Elizabeth Gater 1829 Runcorn
One Elizabeth Gater 1865 Crewe
and
one Elizabeth A Gater Runcorn

Don't know if any of these could be your E Gater or not.

Regards
Su

In my original post I assumed E.GATER may have been the recipient of the cup ! Could E.Gater have been the doner of the cup Huh ie E.GATER Walking Prize Sept 14th 1876....I suspect this event was held in Lancashire !
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Re: 1861 census lookup for Henry GATER of Hulme
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 October 09 10:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi Kimberley,

what age is the Henry Gater we are looking for?  I can only see one born 1832 Manchester on the 1851 census (father William Gater, born Stratford c. 1798) - haven't found him on later ones yet.  Is that the one you're after?

I can see Henry Wilfred Gater b. 1851 Chorlton on the bmds, but it looks as if he died four years later, still in Chorlton. Other than that as Carole says, Lancashire connections are not showing up as yet

My instinct is that 'E Gater' was the winner of the trophy. If they were the donor, I'd expect the cup to be inscribed with the names of subsequent winners, year after year? 

Smiley Barbara


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LANCS: Holt, Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Ballard, Threlfall,Fishwick, Berry
CHES/DERBYS: Holt, Goodwin, Grant, Vernon
LANARK & regions: McGibbon, Bryson, Smith, Campbell
YORKS/LINCS: Taylor, Stamford, Fishwick. Bartholomew

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Re: 1861 census lookup for Henry GATER of Hulme
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 October 09 11:54 UTC (UK) »

Hi Kimberley,

what age is the Henry Gater we are looking for?  I can only see one born 1832 Manchester on the 1851 census (father William Gater, born Stratford c. 1798) - haven't found him on later ones yet.  Is that the one you're after?

I can see Henry Wilfred Gater b. 1851 Chorlton on the bmds, but it looks as if he died four years later, still in Chorlton. Other than that as Carole says, Lancashire connections are not showing up as yet

My instinct is that 'E Gater' was the winner of the trophy. If they were the donor, I'd expect the cup to be inscribed with the names of subsequent winners, year after year? 

 Smiley Barbara



My first instinct was the same, however I could find no family connection !

I now think E.Gater was the donor of the prize.
It is a cup/mug rather than a trophy.
I had hoped to be able to search Gale Newspapers however I dont seem to be able to locate this site.
I am thinking there may be mention of this Walking Event and that a George Roberts may have won the "prize"
Thanks for your interest and help.
Kimberley
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Re: 1861 census lookup for Henry GATER of Hulme
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 October 09 12:18 UTC (UK) »

http://newspapers.bl.uk/blcs/

Gale in conjunction with the British Library. I can access this free as I have a Lancashire Library ticket. Couldn't find anything on a search for "Gater AND walking" in 1876, but lots of walking races were reported on as part of sporting events.
Bit of a needle in a haystack really I'm afraid!

good luck
 Smiley Barbara
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Newton Heath/Failsworth: Greenwood, McGibbon, Fishwick, Berry
LANCS: Holt, Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Ballard, Threlfall,Fishwick, Berry
CHES/DERBYS: Holt, Goodwin, Grant, Vernon
LANARK & regions: McGibbon, Bryson, Smith, Campbell
YORKS/LINCS: Taylor, Stamford, Fishwick. Bartholomew

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Re: 1861 census lookup for Henry GATER of Hulme
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 01 October 09 19:03 UTC (UK) »

HI Kimberley,

The only Henry Gater that I could find around that period is this one

Slaters 1855 Manchester directory

Henry Gater
Painter
133 York St, Hulme

Hope this helps

Regards, Dave
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Re: 1861 census lookup for Henry GATER of Hulme
« Reply #8 on: Friday 02 October 09 11:53 UTC (UK) »

Me again, just noticed the exact date you have on the cup there, so I had another look in the papers for the week following September 14th.  It seems an American called Edward Weston was a celeb of the time, and would undertake long-distance walking 'events' for example in
Liverpool Mercury, Friday, September 22, 1876; Issue 4752, "Weston has completed his feat at Liverpool of walking 255 miles in 75 hours" Took place at Toxteth Park.

Seems he was part of a craze for long-distance walking races around this time, and there are mentions of walking races in local and school sporting events after this date, but with very few names given, and no Gaters  Cry

Still, intersting background info

Smiley Barbara


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Newton Heath/Failsworth: Greenwood, McGibbon, Fishwick, Berry
LANCS: Holt, Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Ballard, Threlfall,Fishwick, Berry
CHES/DERBYS: Holt, Goodwin, Grant, Vernon
LANARK & regions: McGibbon, Bryson, Smith, Campbell
YORKS/LINCS: Taylor, Stamford, Fishwick. Bartholomew

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Re: 1861 census lookup for Henry GATER of Hulme
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 13:32 UTC (UK) »

Me again, just noticed the exact date you have on the cup there, so I had another look in the papers for the week following September 14th.  It seems an American called Edward Weston was a celeb of the time, and would undertake long-distance walking 'events' for example in
Liverpool Mercury, Friday, September 22, 1876; Issue 4752, "Weston has completed his feat at Liverpool of walking 255 miles in 75 hours" Took place at Toxteth Park.

Seems he was part of a craze for long-distance walking races around this time, and there are mentions of walking races in local and school sporting events after this date, but with very few names given, and no Gaters  Cry

Still, intersting background info

 Smiley Barbara



Thankyou Barbara
I realise this may be a needle in a hay stack but appreciate very much you looking for me !
The only conclusion I have is that George ROBERTS (my gt grandfather) treasured this cup/mug and brought it to Australia in 1877.
He may have lived in Ardwick at that time although some of his family lived in Liverpool (West Derby) at 24 Dodge Street West Derby in 1881 census.

He allegedly worked with Manch Sheffield Linconshire Railway at about this time and I have him at 5 Railway View Ardwick for birth of his first 2 children (Thomas & Elizabeth) in 1872/73 and 60 Armitage St Ardwick in January 1876 at birth of 3rd child (George Edwin)
A real puzzle !
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