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1851 census lookup please.
« on: Wednesday 10 August 05 23:16 BST (UK) »

Hi,

could someone please check this family in 1851 please.

this is them in 1841

John Potter  40  ag lab
Mary Potter  35       
Jane Potter   15  silk weaver
William   "      14 silk threader
Sarah     "      10
Thomas  "        8
Frances   "       6
John       "       4
Eliza       "       1

living Brook street, all saints, Derby, Derbyshire

Most of the siblings remained in All saints around brook st and Nuns street. I am hoping the parents John and Mary are still alive and living hopefully in the same house. (or there abouts)

Thanks a million. Angela.
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire
JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire
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Re: 1851 census lookup please.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 11 August 05 10:28 BST (UK) »

Hi

I only have access to the 1851 census index but it might help a bit.

2142-533-68/70 (which covers all saints)

no sign of John

Potter   Eliza   11   
Potter   Henry   8   
Potter   Mary   48   
Potter   Mary Ann   6   
Potter   Thos.   18   
Potter   Sarah A.   21   
Potter   Willm.   23

Found these on the IGI

Henry Potter 14 may 1843 All Saints John Potter & Mary   
Mary Ann Potter 8 June 1845 All Saints John Potter & Mary

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Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt
Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Peel,Potts,Slack,Robinson,
Cooper
Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw

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Re: 1851 census lookup please.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 11 August 05 11:36 BST (UK) »

Hi sunflower.

  This is brilliant it helps confirm the family and helps me link them to info I have from the 1861 census.

If anyone can  find them on the actual census that would be even better. Would like to know if Mary is Derby born.

Can I be cheeky and ask you dear Sunflower if you could check another 2 families on the index for me.

I have Thurston Jones b. 1800 married to Hannah b. 1800

Children on the 1841 were

Henry  15, Eliza 15, Emma 14, Mary 12 Chances are the kids are all moved on but one might still be at home

And then you could you check for this family

Henry Poyser b. abt 1819 with wife Phoebe b. abt 1821

children George age abt 12 in 1851. And Joseph age 9

I'm not sure if Phoebe is a second wife of Henry's so Any Henry Poyser with two sons (at least) that would fit.

I will understand if you are busy but really would appreciate your help

Thanks a million for finding my potters on the index anyway.

All the very best Angela
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire
JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire
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Re: 1851 census lookup please.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 11 August 05 12:15 BST (UK) »

Hi again

I'm off out now so if no one else has done it by the time I get back I'll look then up for you.

Sunflower
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Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt
Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Peel,Potts,Slack,Robinson,
Cooper
Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw

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Re: 1851 census lookup please.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 11 August 05 17:40 BST (UK) »

Hi Angela

Can't see anything for the Jones family but did find the Poysers

Henry Poyser 32
Phoebe Poyser 30
George Poyser 12
Joseph Poyser 9
also with the same folio no. etc
Phoebe Porter 60

Piece2143 Folio70 sch.134

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Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt
Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Peel,Potts,Slack,Robinson,
Cooper
Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw

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Re: 1851 census lookup please.
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 13 August 05 19:19 BST (UK) »

Just managed to look at the Poyser family on the 1851 census, before the library shut

Henry was a Smith, born Derby, and Pheobe was born Shropshire, they were living at No 20 Hope Street, Litchurch,
this is close by Derby Railway Station
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Betts - Derby/Hadleigh, Suffolk
Caudwell - Dbys/ Teversall, Notts
Hanson/ Henson - Alvaston/ Melbourne Dbys, Burton on Trent, Staffs
Eastham/Edge - Chorley, Lancs
Roome - Riddings, Dbys
Barber - Melbourne/ Kings Newton, Dbys
Gadsby - Breedon on the Hill, Lei
Powdrill - Breedon on theHill, Lei
Hopkinson - Shirland/Brackenfield, Dbys
Hunt/Wood/Oldfield - Sth Wingfield, Dbys
Carnell - Darley, Dbys
Barker - York / Derby
Morton - Derby
Frost & Newton - Heanor, Dbys
Hill-Tibshelf, Dby
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Re: 1851 census lookup please.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 13 August 05 19:30 BST (UK) »

Alvaston Lad you have come to my aid again. Thanks so very much for fitting my lookup in. You are one in a million. I am really grateful

One question though.... When sunflower mentioned the ref no for the Poyser lookup There was mention of Phoebe Porter age 60 Was she living with this family?? Or was she a seperate entry.  Just curious as Henry's son went on to marry a Potter and wondered if there was any connection with this Phoebe Potter.

I do thank you so much for looking for me. You are a wonderful person

Thanks Angela.
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire
JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire
Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: 1851 census lookup please.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 13 August 05 20:23 BST (UK) »

i did not note the rest of the household, i was trying to work out Henry Poyser's occupation, when the lbrarian switched the machine off as i was over running closing time, but will look next saturday
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Betts - Derby/Hadleigh, Suffolk
Caudwell - Dbys/ Teversall, Notts
Hanson/ Henson - Alvaston/ Melbourne Dbys, Burton on Trent, Staffs
Eastham/Edge - Chorley, Lancs
Roome - Riddings, Dbys
Barber - Melbourne/ Kings Newton, Dbys
Gadsby - Breedon on the Hill, Lei
Powdrill - Breedon on theHill, Lei
Hopkinson - Shirland/Brackenfield, Dbys
Hunt/Wood/Oldfield - Sth Wingfield, Dbys
Carnell - Darley, Dbys
Barker - York / Derby
Morton - Derby
Frost & Newton - Heanor, Dbys
Hill-Tibshelf, Dby
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Re: 1851 census lookup please.
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 13 August 05 21:15 BST (UK) »

Ah thats very good of you. I would really appreciate that.
Thanks for all your trouble there is no rush they are not going anywhere.

All the best Angela.
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire
JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire
Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: 1851 census lookup please.
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 16 August 05 20:37 BST (UK) »

Hi Angela
                 do not know whether you have this, but i stumbled across Henry Poyser on the 1841 census at 199_08 Brook Street Derby. do you need this?
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Betts - Derby/Hadleigh, Suffolk
Caudwell - Dbys/ Teversall, Notts
Hanson/ Henson - Alvaston/ Melbourne Dbys, Burton on Trent, Staffs
Eastham/Edge - Chorley, Lancs
Roome - Riddings, Dbys
Barber - Melbourne/ Kings Newton, Dbys
Gadsby - Breedon on the Hill, Lei
Powdrill - Breedon on theHill, Lei
Hopkinson - Shirland/Brackenfield, Dbys
Hunt/Wood/Oldfield - Sth Wingfield, Dbys
Carnell - Darley, Dbys
Barker - York / Derby
Morton - Derby
Frost & Newton - Heanor, Dbys
Hill-Tibshelf, Dby
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Re: 1851 census lookup please.
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 16 August 05 20:50 BST (UK) »

Ah you are very good but I have the 1841 census and I have this info but thanks for thinking of me. Its just the 1851 for Derby I haven't got. I have some areas of Derbyshire but not Derby itself.

Thanks a million for thinking of me.

All the best Angela.
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire
JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire
Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: 1851 census lookup please.
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 20 August 05 14:15 BST (UK) »

This is what we have 1851 census.

Piece: 2143. Page: 29. Folio: 70. Scheduel 134.
20 Hope Street, Litchurch, Derby

Head: Henry Poyser, 32, Smith, Derby, St Peters, married.
Wife: Pheobe Poyser, 30, Shropshire, married.
Son: George Poyser, 12, Errand Boy, Derby, St Peters.
Son: Joseph Poyser, 9, Scholar, Derby, St Peters.
Aunt: Pheobe Porter, 60, Silk Mill Hand, Shropshire, widow.

Piece: 2142. Page 16. Folio: 533. Scheduel 68.
57 Nuns Street, All Saints, Derby.

Head: Mary Potter, 48, Derbyshire, Ba?Huh?, widow.
Son: Thomas Potter, 18, Works at Factory, Derbyshire, Derby, single.
Son: Eliza Potter, 11, Works at Factory, Derbyshire, Derby.
Son: Henry Potter, 8, Scholar, Derbyshire, Derby.
Daughter: Mary Ann Potter, 6, Scholar, Derbyshire, Derby.
3 x Femail Lodgers, all Mill Hands, all born outside Derbyshire.

Piece: 2142. Page 17. Folio 533. Scheduel 70.
Court 52 Nuns Street, All Saints, Derby.

Head: Willim Potter, 23, Journeyman Slater, Derbyshire, Derby, married.
Wife: Sarah A Potter, 21, Works at Factory, Derbyshire, Derby.
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Betts - Derby/Hadleigh, Suffolk
Caudwell - Dbys/ Teversall, Notts
Hanson/ Henson - Alvaston/ Melbourne Dbys, Burton on Trent, Staffs
Eastham/Edge - Chorley, Lancs
Roome - Riddings, Dbys
Barber - Melbourne/ Kings Newton, Dbys
Gadsby - Breedon on the Hill, Lei
Powdrill - Breedon on theHill, Lei
Hopkinson - Shirland/Brackenfield, Dbys
Hunt/Wood/Oldfield - Sth Wingfield, Dbys
Carnell - Darley, Dbys
Barker - York / Derby
Morton - Derby
Frost & Newton - Heanor, Dbys
Hill-Tibshelf, Dby
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 20 August 05 14:38 BST (UK) »

Alverston Lad you are truely a star among millions. Thanks so much for looking them up for me. You have gone to a great deal of trouble and I really really appreciate it. Thanks for all the lookups you have done for me.

What else can I say but THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

All the best Angela.

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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire
JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire
Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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