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Alma
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Looking for McGINTY - (Claughton - Cheshire - nr Birkenhead - Michael and son Edward 1840-5 time frame Could this be the Claughton nr Wirral area?
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peterbennett
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Hi Alma
I have checked the 1841 census of Claughton without finding any Mcginty's or simular.
Can you tell me what info you have that points to that area, and I will see if I can help.
regards
peterbennett
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Alma
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Hello Peter,
I am most grateful for your invaluable assistance already. In the 1871 UK Census Edward said he was born "Claughton, Birkenhead, UK. He was at that time residing at 41 Dorrington Street in Liverpool with his "wife" and family (Eliza Agnew born 1841 Cheshire). He was a shipwright and in his marriage lines 1876 gave his father's name as Michael,deceased. I have noted 3 Edward McGintys all registered Manchester in the relevant time period 1841-1846. His first son was called Richard and I did see a Richard McGinty born Ireland on the IGI. He also said "Ginty" at the time of his son Arthur's birth in 1872. We have found the family 1871, 1881 and 1901 census. Earliest address we have is the Dorrington St address and by 1881 the family was at 12 Seville St, Liverpool. Should we opt to get the birth certs for all those Edwards.?? Also saw an Edward McGinty born in the relevant time period in Scotland...Eliza's father Arthur was deceased at time of her marriage also.
Is there anything else I can add to assist you?
MANY THANKS
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peterbennett
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Hi Alma
I wouln't go for the certificates as yet, can you post all the details from the 1871 census including spelling mistakes,
I have tried to turn it up but no luck finding it. I will try to find them on the 1861/51 censuses. I f as he says he was born Claugton Birkenhead his details should be in the Cheshire BMD.
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peterbennett
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Alma
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Hello again Peter
1871 Census for 41 Dorrington St (Reel 3812 25) - Its in Everton.
Edward McGinty 30 years shipwright born Cheshire Birkenhead
Eliza McGinty wife 28 years Machinist born Cheshire Chester
Mary McGinty daughter aged 6 scholr born Liverpool
Edward McGinty son aged 4 years born Liverpool
Richard McGinty son aged 3 years born Liverpool
Eliza McGinty daughter aged 1 year born Liverpool
Letitia Agnew mother in law aged 60 widow born Ireland
Eliza Heaney Lodger widow, aged 50 dressmaker born Isle of Man
1881 Census Reel 3661 Folio 118 Page 8 for 12 Seville Street Liverpool
Edward McGinty aged 38 years shipwright born Cheshire Claughton
Eliza McGinty wife aged 35 years Machinist born Cheshire Claughton
Mary daughter 17 years single born Liverpool
Edward McGinty son aged 15 telegraph boy born Liverpool
Richard MGinty son aged 12 office boy born Liverpool
Eliza McGinty daughter aged 10 scholar Born Liverpool
Arthur McGinty son aged 8 scholar born Liverpool
Edith McGinty daughter aged 6 scholar born Liverpool
James J McGinty son aged 4 years born Liverpool
Michael C McGinty son aged 3 years born Liverpool
1891 Census Reel 2960 12 29 Rockley St KIrkdale Liverpool
Edward McGinty head aged 49 years shipwright born Cheshire Birkenhead
Eliza McGinty wife aged 47 years bonr Chester
Richard son aged 22 single general labourer born Liverpool
Eliza daughter aged 20 barmaid born Liverpool
Arthur son aged 18 clerk born Liverpool
Edith daughter aged 17 born Liverpool
James son aged 15 engineers apprentice
Michael son aged 13 errand boy born Liverpool
William son aged 8 scholar born Liverpool
Live in New Zealand and a very keen genealogist!
Thanks heaps
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peterbennett
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Hi Alma
I have now searched the 1851 Birkenhead/Wirral for your family with no luck, one of our other researchers (floridagirl)as searched the 1861 Liverpool census in the area they where living in '71 with out finding anything.
Have you an address at the time of thier marriage?
Regards
peterbennett
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peterbennett
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Hi Alma
Have searched the Chester districts for the McGinty family without luck, the thinking was that he must have met Eliza Agnew somewhere.
My thinking is that Michael and family must have been in Cheshire for a short while only, there are no registrations BMD in the indexes for them and only one Mcginty (Charles ) birth reg. Birkenhead 1846 which may be a brother to Edward ??
Look forward to hearing from you
peterbennett
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Alma
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Hello again,
Eliza Agnew & Edward McGinty were married in All Souls Church (RC) Liverpool ? Collingwood Avenue
Both the parents (Arthur Agnew) and Michael McGinty were listed as deceased at time of the marriage in 1875.
In the 1860 directories Liverpool: McGinty -
Hannah, 166 Field St
John, shipwright, Jones Terrace, 35 Tarlton St, Everton
William, shoemaker, 49 McKee st.
Also apparently birth of an Edward McGinity 1849 Liverpool.
Yes I too am thinking that the family if they were in Birkenhead had not resided there very long. Maybe that birth cert for Charles may be a resort..
Sorry I have little further to assist you.
and Thanks again for your help
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Alma
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Peter,
Eliza & Edward were living at 41 Dorrington Street Everton (with family) at time of their marriage. Forgot to post earlier - my apologies
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Alma
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I have now searched the marriage index online for any marriage of a Michael McGinty father of Edward - no marriages of any Michael appear between 1837-1846. A marriage of a Michael McGinty in All Souls, Liverpool 1868 - same Church as Edward got married in but does this mean anything?? I suspect maybe the family did originally not reside in Chester - what do you think, Peter - where to now - I have death of a Michael McGinty in Liverpool 1861 but he could be not ours!
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peterbennett
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Hi Alma
I have found a ref to 2 Mcginty families in the name index for the 1861 census Birkenhead, and have asked one of our regular lookeruppers Floridagirl if she will look up the full details next time she is at the Liverpool library, this she said she will do on her return from holiday in a couple of weeks.
The ref details are RG9-2643 F 123a and 133a
So hopefully it may be good news.
regards
peterbennett
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ange
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Sorry to butt in but I don't think the '61 for Birkenhead is at the Liverpool Library, if it is I couldn't find it last time I went a few weeks ago. 
Ange
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peterbennett
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Hi Ange
Thanks for the info, realy down in the dumps now,
was having a good day till then.
Niether of us were sure,  thought it was worth a try though.
Will have to send my sister of to Chester in a couple of weeks.
Did you ever sort your Birkenhead lookup out
http://www.rootschat.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8341.0
If not I will ask her to see what she can find.
regards
peterbennett
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ange
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Hi Peter,
Sorry to ruin your day, no I never sorted out the look up
If you could ask your sister I would be very grateful 
Ange
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Alma
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Re : McGinty Surname
Hello again Peter and all who are assisting in the hunt. I do appreciate your efforts
Alma
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