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1841 Census & Birth -WILSON - hawkers
« on: Tuesday 30 August 05 22:47 BST (UK) »

Can anyone help me ?

    Here is the info I have on this part of my family,

    Charles Wilson, b:1818 - Cripplegate, London              Pedlar / Hawker
    Isabella ?  b. abt 1819 - Scotland                                Pedlar / Hawker

I have Charles & Isabella on all the Census's 1861-1901, can anyone find them on the 1841 & 1851 Census's.


Their son and as far as I can tell only child.  However I have not been able to find the Registration of Cornelius's Birth in the Cumberland Index ! Could some Kind Person Check incase  have missed Something

He was living with Charles & Isabella at the time of the 1861 Census confirming them as his parents.  If someone can find his birth records I would be most grateful.  Likewise I don't have any marriage information for either Charles & Isabella or Cornelius & Jane Anne, Can you help ?

    Cornelius Wilson .b 1845 - Penrith, Cumberland  -        Hawker
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    Jane Anne Close b. Hexham, Northumberland -            Pedlar / Hawker

Jane Anne's family were also Hawkers / Pedlars, her father also listed his occupation as Tinsmith  this was in association with Hawker.

Any help is grately appreciated.

Please please help if you can.

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Andy Stuart
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Re: 1841 Census & Birth -WILSON - hawkers
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 31 August 05 08:18 BST (UK) »

Hi Andy,
Sorry they're not in Penrith on the 1841 census Cry
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Re: 1841 Census & Birth -WILSON - hawkers
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 September 05 23:33 BST (UK) »

Hi Andy

The following is a name index for Penrith for 1851 and unfortunately looks as if the family are not there:

http://rolyg.members.beeb.net/2425ED8a-8j.htm

Unfortunately if the family are Pedlars they could be anywhere at anytime and probably moved about a lot.  Cornelius may think he was born in Penrith but he may have been baptised somewhere else! 

I take it you have the entry on Free BMD for Cornenlius Wilson reg 1847 in Kendal?

Just out of interest found this site:

http://encyclopedia.jrank.org/HAN_HEG/HAWKERS.html

From 1870 (and I think before that) Pedlars / Hawkers required a licence to trade legally.  May be a long shot but could be worth contacting the local council & / or the Cumbria Record Office to see if they kept records of licences issued to see if you can locate the family in the area at the time.

Cheers Sue
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Re: 1841 Census & Birth -WILSON - hawkers
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 September 05 23:39 BST (UK) »

Sadly, you may have to bear in mind that there was no requirement to list those people not living in houses on any census prior to 1861 and many hawkers and other itinerant workers were still living in tents and lodging in barns etc. at this time.  Although some enumerators did actually list some of them, they weren't required to do so.

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Re: 1841 Census & Birth -WILSON - hawkers
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 September 05 17:25 BST (UK) »

I checked the baprism records for Penrith for Cornelius Wilson at St Andrew church for 1845, checked a few years either way, not listed. the only other church at that time was Christ Church at Penrith, but there records don't start till 1850.
Sorry.

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