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Carlisle orphanage?
« on: Friday 09 September 05 10:03 BST (UK) »

hi,
looking for information on my grandmother Gladys May Musgrove/Musgrave. Family tittle tattle has it that she was born in an orphanage in the Carlisle area. He mother had a fling with the owner of a large biscuit factory and was shoved in a home/orphanage when found to be with child.
this would have been around 1900. Gladys later joined the forces and married a Thomas Wainwright and settled in Newcastle-u-Lyme
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Re: Carlisle orphanage?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 September 05 10:28 BST (UK) »

hi,
looking for information on my grandmother Gladys May Musgrove/Musgrave. Family tittle tattle has it that she was born in an orphanage in the Carlisle area. He mother had a fling with the owner of a large biscuit factory and was shoved in a home/orphanage when found to be with child.
this would have been around 1900. Gladys later joined the forces and married a Thomas Wainwright and settled in Newcastle-u-Lyme

this is the only one I can find on BVRI


MUSGRAVE   Gladys Mary   Christening
      
   Birth Date:   17 Jan 1890   
   Christening Date:   9 Mar 1890      Lancaster  Lancashire   England
         St Mary
   Father   Joseph MUSGRAVE
   Mother   Mary Jane
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Re: Carlisle orphanage?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 September 05 14:28 BST (UK) »

thanks for that. I have found her birth as registered in 1899 and on 1901 census residing with a family in Burgh by Sands. now nead to get copy of birth certificate to locate mother and if possible father
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Re: Carlisle orphanage?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 September 05 10:41 BST (UK) »

Are there 2 Gladys May Musgrove

Gladys May born Sept 1899 Carlisle.

Only one Gladys M on 1901 liviing with parents in Derby aged 2
Father Charles 42 
Mother Kate 34
Mary 20
Harriet E 18
Frances G 14
Edith 9
Charles 9
Gladys M 2

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Re: Carlisle orphanage?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 25 September 05 14:15 BST (UK) »

Hi
The famous biscuit factory still exists now "McVitties" but was owned by the equally famous "Carr",  family who owned a large part of Carlisle, and probably still do.  Has to be loads of history in that family.
With  regards the orphanage I am sure there were several or more in those days. But again one the famous/infamous was what is now the Austain Friars school, I believe back in the good old days it was run by nuns and priests who were quite cruel to the kids and used to ship them off to different parts of the world. The impressive four story building still exists on the top of a hill at St Anne's Carlisle.
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« Reply #5 on: Monday 26 September 05 22:04 BST (UK) »

thanks for the 'Carr' name Mike. that has given me a good line to work with.

Peter
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Re: Carlisle orphanage?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 04 October 05 21:18 BST (UK) »

If you haven't already tracked it down try "Rich Desserts & Captain Thins" by Margaret Foster

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0099748916/026-8874202-9782844

she is a Carlisle born author with an interest in family history and this is all about the Carr family.

Also worth a look re Carlisle history is "Hidden Lives" - her autobiography that compares her life with her mother and grandmother growing up in Carlisle.  It was this book that started my interest in family history.....
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