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suzard
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I have the list of marriages for St James Parish Church Codnor Derbys 1844-1894- many from Denby were married there(there is a Codnor Denby Lane-this is probably your HANNAH:
FEB 9TH 1878 Bridegroom HENRY WALTERS 25 MINER father NATHANIEL WALTERS MINER
Bride:HANNAH CRESSWELL 24 father JAMES CRESSWELL BRICKMAKER
There are quite a few CRESSWELL marriages in the list-mainly the children of ROBERT CRESSWELL or FRANCIS CRESSWELL(AMONG OTHERS)
There is also this entry
Oct 1st 1872 Bridegroom JAMES CRESSWELL Widower 39 Miner Father FRANCIS CRESSWELL Miner
Bride ELIZABETH HODBY 39 Father JOSEPH HODBY Collier
Possibly HANNAH'S fathers 2nd marriage?
If you would like the other enties please ask.
I live a few miles from this area and am researching CRESSWELLS (my Grandmothers line)
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Beverley Nicholson
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Thanks for your help! Do you see where Hannah had any brothers/sisters? I am still unsure as to what her line is.
Hope to hear from you again. I am coming to England again next summer and hopefully I can meet everyone who has been so kind to me.
Thanks again,
Bev
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NICHOLSON- Cheshire England and Dundee, Scotland. Also Wright, Marlor, Redman, France, Walters, Crresswell, Stephenson, Crossland, Watson- ENGLAND Crammond, Keith, Crighton, Haggart, Mill, McKenzie, Crocat, Farquharson, Kea - SCOTLAND Derrigg, Moran- IRELAND SPECIAL THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO HAS HELPED ME RESEARCH!!  |
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St James PC Codnor
June 5th 1876 Bridegroom GEORGE SCRETTAN 26Miner Illegitimate
BrideELLEN CRESSWELL 19 Father JAMES CRESSWELL Miner
Strong possibilty-almost certainly?
If you think the James Cresswell 2nd marriage to Elizabeth Hodby is Hannah's father-then her grandfather would be Francis Cresswell-i have several of his childrens marriages-they would be James siblings Interested???
I'm still looking for more of Hannah's siblings-back-will be on line for next hour-so hang on in there!
Cheers Suz
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Hi-I'm still up-like to do family research while the house is quiet!
First of all-George Scretton -on freebmd his name is spellt Scrottan in marriage entry- on freebmd births the name is spellt Scraton!!!
I am pretty sure the marriage of James Cresswell widower to Elizabeth Hodby is Hannahs fathers second marriage-I have just noticed on the marriage entry it gives James as living at Waingroves
Just read your post that your ggrandmother Sarah Ann was born in Waingroves-seems to fit. Waingroves is not far from Codnor-between Codnor and Ripley
Hannahs father James Cresswell was the son of FRANCIS CRESSWELL
jAMES sisters would be as follows:
SARAH CRESSWELL - her marriage entry is St James pc Codnor 6th jan 1857 ED. BRIGGS 22 labourer Father JOHN VALLANCE (UNDERLINED-USUALLY MEANS STEPFATHER) Blacksmith, SARAH CRESSWELL 24 father FRANCIS CRESSWELL Collier
ELIZA ANN CRESSWELL=marriage entry: 24th Nov 1857 ANDREW BYARD 29 Labourer father WILLIAM BYARD Labourer ELIZA ANN CRESSWELL 26 father FRANCIS CRESSWELL Collier
Hope that fills in more of your tree
Cheers Suz
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Age Where
1901 CENSUS FEMALES AGED 0/100
Born Administrative
County Civil Parish Occupation
Doris Cresswell 10M Ripley Derby Derbyshire Ripley
Sara Cresswell 1 Marehay Derby Derbyshire Ripley
Doris Cresswell 2 Belper Derby Derbyshire Ripley
Ellen Cresswell 2 Derbys Wirksworth Derbyshire Wirksworth
Elsie Cresswell 2 Derbyshire Derby Derbyshire Derby
Gertrude Cresswell 2 Ripley Derby Derbyshire Ripley
Nellie Cresswell 2 Derbys Ripley Derbyshire Ripley
Edith Cresswell 3 Ripley Derby Derbyshire Ripley
Jane Cresswell 3 Derbyshire Bolsover Derbyshire Bolsover
Evelyn Cresswell 4 Derbyshire Derby Derbyshire Denby
Florence Cresswell 4 Derbys Ironville Derbyshire Codnor Park
Maria Cresswell 4 Derby Pilsley Derbyshire Pilsley
Ache Cresswell 5 Ripley Derby Derbyshire Ripley
Ann Cresswell 5 Derby Bugsworth Derbyshire Of Chinley Bugsworth And Brownside
Bertha Cresswell 6 Derbys Kilbourn Derbyshire Kilbourn
Eliza Cresswell 7 Derbyshire Derby Derbyshire Denby
Grace Cresswell 7 Derbys Wirksworth Derbyshire Wirksworth
Maud Cresswell 7 Derbys Ironville Derbyshire Codnor Park
Millicent Cresswell 7 Derbyshire Ripley Derbyshire Bolsover
Sarah Cresswell 7 Derbys Ashbourne Derbyshire Melbourne
Eveline Cresswell 8 Derby Bugsworth Derbyshire Of Chinley Bugsworth And Brownside
Hilda Cresswell 8 Ripley Derby Derbyshire Ripley
Jessie Cresswell 9 Derbyshire Ripley Derbyshire Bolsover
Annie Cresswell 10 Derbys Ilkeston Derbyshire Ilkeston
Gertrude Cresswell 10 Derbyshire Ripley Derbyshire Bolsover
Matilda Cresswell 10 Derby Pilsley Derbyshire Pilsley
Frances Cresswell 11 Derbys Ashbourne Derbyshire Melbourne
Amy Cresswell 12 Derbys Ironville Derbyshire Codnor Park
Sarah Cresswell 12 Derby Bugsworth Derbyshire Of Chinley Bugsworth And Brownside
Adelaide Cresswell 13 Derbyshire Derby Derbyshire Denby House Work
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PART 2
Age Where
Born Administrative
County Civil Parish Occupation
Edith Cresswell 14 Lanc Oldham Derbyshire Chapel En Le Frith
Emma Cresswell 14 Derbys Derby Derbyshire Derby Kitchen Maid Domestic
Emma Cresswell 15 Derbyshire Belper Derbyshire Denby Barmaid
Annie Cresswell 18 Derby Chapel En Le Frith Derbyshire Chapel En Le Frith Cotton Weaver
Emma Cresswell 20 Derbys Staveley Derbyshire Chesterfield Servant Domestic
Jane Cresswell 20 Derbys Ilkeston Derbyshire Chesterfield Housemaid Domestic
Agnes Cresswell 21 Lancash Liverpool Derbyshire Wirksworth Farmers Daughter In Law
Hannah Cresswell 22 Ripley Derby Derbyshire Ripley
Harriett Cresswell 22 Derby Derbyshire Derby Lace Hand
Sarah Cresswell 23 Derbys Wirksworth Derbyshire Wirksworth Farmers Daughter
Alice Cresswell 24 Derbyshire Derby Derbyshire Derby
Lilian Cresswell 24 Derby Derbyshire Derby Lace Hand
Mahala Cresswell 24 Belper Derby Derbyshire Ripley
Mary Cresswell 24 Nottingham Derbyshire Alfreton
Eliza Cresswell 25 Derbys Shottle Derbyshire Wirksworth
Louisa Cresswell 25 Derbys Brampton Derbyshire Chesterfield General Servant Domestic
Martha Cresswell 25 Marehay Derby Derbyshire Ripley
Sarah Cresswell 25 Derbyshire Belper Derbyshire Derby
Mary Cresswell 26 Derbys Pentrich Derbyshire Ripley
Eliza Cresswell 27 Nottingham Derbyshire Sandiacre
Mary Cresswell 27 Derby Chinley Derbyshire Chinley & C Cotton Wadding Hand
Mary Cresswell 27 Ripley Derby Derbyshire Ripley
Annie Cresswell 28 Derby Derbyshire Derby
Annie Cresswell 28 Derbys Kilbourn Derbyshire Kilbourn House Keeper
Annie Cresswell 28 Derbyshire Derby Derbyshire Derby
Rose Cresswell 30 Nottingham Derbyshire Sandiacre
Amelia Cresswell 32 Leicesters Leicester Derbyshire Ripley
Gertrude Cresswell 34 Staffordshire Checkley Derbyshire Shirland
Sarah Cresswell 35 Ripley Derby Derbyshire Ripley Warper At Cotton Mill
Charlotte Cresswell 36 Warwick Cowndon Covent Derbyshire Hollington
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PART 3
Age Where
Born Administrative
County Civil Parish Occupation
Martha Cresswell 36 Derbys Langley Derbyshire Codnor Park
Alice Cresswell 37 Ripley Derby Derbyshire Ripley Seamtress
Eliza Cresswell 37 Derbyshire Belper Derbyshire Denby
Elizabeth Cresswell 37 Derbys Heanor Derbyshire Pleasley
Agnes Cresswell 38 Derbyshire Elvaston Derbyshire Denby
Annie Cresswell 38 Derbyshire Longford Derbyshire Hopton
Martha Cresswell 38 Derby Chinley Derbyshire Of Chinley Bugsworth And Brownside
Sarah Cresswell 38 Derby Denby Derbyshire Derby
Sarah Cresswell 41 Derbys Glossop Derbyshire Glossop Cotton Weaver
Mary Cresswell 44 Derby Chapel En Le Frith Derbyshire Chapel En Le Frith Cotton Weaver
Lydia Cresswell 46 Nottingham Derbyshire Ilkeston
Mary Cresswell 46 Derby Codnor Derbyshire Pilsley
Harriett Cresswell 48 Notts Hucknall Tarkard Derbyshire Ripley
Catherine Cresswell 51 Coxbench Derby Derbyshire Ripley
Mary Cresswell 53 Derbys Chapel En Le Frith Derbyshire Chapel En Le Frith Laundress Takes In Washing
Maria Cresswell 57 Derby Derbyshire Derby
Sarah Cresswell 57 Yorks Handsworth Derbyshire Alfreton
Sarah Cresswell 58 Derbys Wirksworth Derbyshire Wirksworth Farmer
Emma Cresswell 59 Derby New Mills Derbyshire Chinley & C
Martha Cresswell 60 Notts Stapleford Derbyshire Sandiacre Living On Own Means
Catherine Cresswell 62 Notts Greasley Derbyshire Alfreton Dressmaker
Charlotte Cresswell 63 Belper Derby Derbyshire Ripley
Hannah Cresswell 67 Derby Ockbrook Derbyshire Risley Entire Retired School Mistress
Sarah Cresswell 77 Staffs Hendon Derbyshire Hollington
Ann Cresswell 81 Derby Chapel En Le Frith Derbyshire Of Chinley Bugsworth And Brownside
Mary Cresswell 81 Derbys Bakewell Derbyshire Chapel En Le Frith
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Beverley Nicholson
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Thanks for sending all this information! The Doris Cresswell jumps out at me because my grandmother's name was Doris. Doris' grandmother was Hannah Cresswell.
I had often wondered how/why my gggrandmother, Sarah Walters (d/o Hannah) chose the name Doris.
Is there any other information about this 10 month old female named Doris Cresswell?
Sorry its taken me some time to reply to your posting. I am a teacher and its tough to get around to enjoying my hobbies during the school year-
Thanks again for your help!
Sincerely,
Bev
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NICHOLSON- Cheshire England and Dundee, Scotland. Also Wright, Marlor, Redman, France, Walters, Crresswell, Stephenson, Crossland, Watson- ENGLAND Crammond, Keith, Crighton, Haggart, Mill, McKenzie, Crocat, Farquharson, Kea - SCOTLAND Derrigg, Moran- IRELAND SPECIAL THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO HAS HELPED ME RESEARCH!! |
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These CRESSWELLS can drive you crazy. I think and hope the best answer to all of this is to make a trip to the UK myself this summer (2005).
I never realized how common the surname is- guess its like Smith and Jones here in the USA.
Ok gotta go correct some papers and get my lessons ready for tomorrow.
Thanks again.
Bev
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NICHOLSON- Cheshire England and Dundee, Scotland. Also Wright, Marlor, Redman, France, Walters, Crresswell, Stephenson, Crossland, Watson- ENGLAND Crammond, Keith, Crighton, Haggart, Mill, McKenzie, Crocat, Farquharson, Kea - SCOTLAND Derrigg, Moran- IRELAND SPECIAL THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO HAS HELPED ME RESEARCH!! |
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Another little note from St James parish Church -monumental inscription within the church-In grateful memory of the men of this parish who sacrificed their lives for their country in the great war 1914-18-HERBERT CRESSWELL
May fit in somewhere!
The Cresswells from Heanor, Ripley area ran a very successful chain of supermarkets infrom approx late 1950's until 1990's -when the "big boys" bought all the supermarkets out!
1876 Kellys shows Thomas Cresswell shopkeeper at Codnor Derbys
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If this thread is not dead, may I intervene?
First, though, a greeting to all my Cresswell cousins.
My interest in this stems from the marriage of Mary CRESSWELL (b.1844, "House Wife") of Ripley, Derbyshire to John WHYSALL (b.1843; Collier). Hushed respect, please to my great-great-grandparents!
Mary Cresswell's parents were Robert CRESSWELL and Fanny BOOTH.
John WHYSALL's parents were William WHYSALL and Ann FLETCHER. This takes us into Pentrich, Derby (the scene, let it be remembered, of the last armed uprising in England). I am currently working on the assumption that this is the William Whysall christening 18 Sep 1803; Pentrich, Derby,
parents: William Whysall & Mirah Taylor.
Back to John and Mary:
Six children:
Frank (b.1859);
Susanna (b. 1863);
Thomas (b.1870: Grand dad!);
Frederick (b.1870);
James (b.1872);
German (b.1874)
That German Whyall lived in Swallownest, according to my father, and would likely be the "Mr and Mrs G. Whysall" in the obituary [the wife was Eliza - that's all I know at the momet]. However, I have the 1901 census address for German Whysall as "Cottage, Millstone Hill, Aston-with-Aughton".
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Hi John-do you haveany other children born to ROBERT CRESSWELL and FANNY BOOTH??
My G Grandfather was GEORGE CRESSWELL b. abt 1846-the son of ROBERT CRESSWELL married CATHERINE HUNT in 1845
ROBERTS FATHER WAS ALSO robert-HAVE NO BIRTHDATE ETC
Wondering if could be the one married to Fanny Booth?
GEORGE called one of his daughters FANNY-could this be after his gran?
Georges father ROBERT died when GEORGE was young-so poss George spent time with his grandparents who were ROBERT AND ?
My mind's racing!!!!
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Attention of Suzard:
Not sure I got that bit.
Let's clarify:
[Generation X] Robert CRESSWELL = Spouse unknown
At least one child:
[Generation X+1] Robert CRESSWELL = Fanny BOOTH
At least two children known:
Mary CRESSWELL (b. 1844) who marries John WHYSALL
George CRESSWELL (b. 1846) who marries [unknown]
So where does the former Miss HUNT fit in here?
I hope to be able to get a couple of hours later this week, to go down to the Family Record Centre here in North London. That might get us back to 1837. Apart from pursuing these Robert Cresswells, are there any other specific details needed?
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hI jOHN -WAS HOPING YOUR ROBERT CRESSWELL FITTED IN WITH MINE -BUT I DON'T THINK SO-HERE'S INFO I HAVE:
ROBERT CRESSWELL b. 1805 Miner married? ? died 1864 age 59
father of
ROBERT CRESSWELLb. 1825 married Catherine Hunt at Heanor St Lawrence 28 July 1844
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GEORGE CRESSWELL B. 1846 Langley Derbys married Elizabeth Walker Sisson
I am trying to find info on both ROBERTS
Thanks for your reply, Suz
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Re: Suzard's posting of 14th September.
This is probably of incidental interest, but I offer it for the record.
Suzard cited the list of marriages for St James Parish Church, Codnor, Derbys: FEB 9TH 1878:Bridegroom HENRY WALTERS 25 MINER father NATHANIEL WALTERS MINER
Bride:HANNAH CRESSWELL 24 father JAMES CRESSWELL BRICKMAKER.
Now compare the 1881 (also cited by spendlove, 6 July 1881) census for Aston Terrace, Aston-cum-Aughton, and we find:
Henry WALTERS; Head of household; Married; Male; aged 27; born Cinderhill, Nottingham; Coal Miner.
Hannah WALTERS; Wife; Married; Female; aged 28; born Denby, Derby.
Sarah Ann WALTERS; Daughter; Female; aged 3; born Rentrick [i.e. Pentrich], Derby.
Mary WALTERS; Daughter; Female; aged 1; born Aston, York[shire].
William WA[L]TERS; Brother; Male; aged 40; born Pentrick [i.e. Pentrich], Derbys; Coal Miner.
About three dozen households earlier on the same census listing, also in Aston Terrace, are the Whysalls, cited by me on 6th November. Hence, one reason for the presence of "Mr G.Whysall" mentioned in the obituary cited by Beverley Nicholson in her 6 July posting.
Aston Terrace was miners' cottages for the North Staveley colliery. The local name for this pit was "Top'o't'Hill". According to my father, it was "an old man's pit" — presumably because of the "state of the goin'". I have a local history society publication about the area somewhere in the house; but I'm not going to find it until our new kitchen is fitted!
And another piece of [almost-certainly irrelevant] information: three of the witnesses to the 1842 Royal Commisions "on the Employment of Children and Young Persons in the Mines and Collieries of Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire and on the State, Condition and Treatment of such Children and Young Persons". from the Denby and Kilburne Pit were
No.315. James Creswell.
No.320. George Creswell.
No.321. Samuel Hunt.
Hey! I'm really getting into this!
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