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Re: Lookup please
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 21 October 07 18:00 BST (UK) »

well from DJ to DS .... well done you Grin

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GRAY-OXFORD
LAMBOURN-OLD MARSTON OXON
BARNARD-OXFORD
TOLLETT-BEGBROKE,OXON
LEWENDON/LEWINGTON-BRADFIELD.BERKS
SHAW-BETHNAL GREEN,MIDDLESEX
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Re: Lookup please
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 21 October 07 18:32 BST (UK) »

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Hi

Thank you both Cheesy

This might be him but I still cannot make the link to Walter....

Possible Marriage Registration

1870 Nottingham AMJ quarter 7b 359

Emma Butler
William Smith

1871

Nottingham RG10/3516 Folios 6/7 Pages 6/7

Phineas Butler Head M 67 Framework Knitter Notts Nottingham
Mary do Wife M 67 Seamer Notts Nottingham
Thomas do Son M 34 Upholsterer Notts Nottingham
Arthur do Grandson 12 Scholar Notts Nottingham
William Smith Son in Law M 26 Framework Knitter Notts Nottingham
Emma do Daur M 25 Lace Hand Notts Nottingham
Elizabeth do Grand Daur 4mo Notts Nottingham
Thomas Butler Grandson 7 Scholar Notts Nottingham
William do Grandson 4 Notts Nottingham

25 Commerce Street, Nottingham

DS


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Re: Lookup please
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 21 October 07 20:35 BST (UK) »

Hi

Please ignore the last suggestion. Although it looked quite good with William being the right age and having the right job, when followed through to 1881 there is no Walter.

However, I think that I might have found him. Actually finding Walter in 1881 is relatively easy. It is the linking of him to a father called William that is the problem.

In 1881 I think that Walter can be seen at RG11/3360 Folio 49 Page 26 with his widowed mother, Hannah who is aged 27 and from Mansfield. You can see the whole 1881 entry free of charge on http://www.familysearch.org/. You will see that Hannah's Mother in Law, Elizabeth is living with them. I think that this might be the same lady who is living with Sarah Ann in 1891.

This is the 1871 census entry for the same family...

Nottingham RG10/3517 Folio 47 Page 26

Hannah Smith Head M 27 Hosiery Worker Notts Mansfield
William do Son 4 Notts Nottingham
Frederick do Son 1 Notts Nottingham
Elizabeth do Mother M 53 Hosiery Worker Notts Nottingham

3 Dickinson Street, Nottingham

No sign of husband William but I think that Elizabeth is his mother (not Hannah’s) and notice the address. Elizabeth’s daughter Sarah Ann and her husband Joseph Wood were living next door at number 5 Dickinson Street.

Although there is still no direct link from Walter to William, there are too many coincidences to be ignored. Hannah must have been William's wife but it seems that he never appeared on a census with her or with his son Walter.

Possible Birth Registration

1877 Nottingham JFM quarter 7b 332

Walter Smith

Probable Death Registration

1877 Nottingham AMJ quarter 7b 193

William Smith aged 32

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Re: Lookup please
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 21 October 07 20:42 BST (UK) »

Here is Walter again with his mum.....

1891

Nottingham RG12/2700 Folio 18 Page 30

Hannah Smith Head Wid 40 Turner Off Mansfield
Fred do Son S 21 Nottingham
Walter do Son S 14 Hosiery Hand Nottingham
Sarah A do Daur S 19 Lace Hand Nottingham
Florence do Daur S 9 Scholar Leicester

3 Carey’s Yard, Nottingham (Same as 1881)

Sorry that it was a rather circuitous route but I think that we may have got there in the end.

You could verify (or disprove) it with a couple of carefully chosen certificates if you wish to do so.

Best wishes

DS Wink

ps I am not sure but I think Hannah was formerly called Hannah Bamford and she married William in 1865.


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« Reply #19 on: Sunday 21 October 07 21:48 BST (UK) »

Goodness me you two are amazing thank you so much....


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SLADEN,....NOTTINGHAM,NEWARK,MIDDLESEX.ST PANCRAS.
SMITH,......NOTTINGHAM,SHARDLOW
LOWE,.......NOTTINGHAM,SHEFFIELD,SHARDLOW
DUFFIN,....NOTTINGHAM,YORKSHIRE
WRIGHT,...NOTTINGHAM
GOLLIN.....ILKESTON
BLAKE......ILKESTON,GALWAY

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