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Topic: 1841 & 1851 Richardson/Crouch Ludgershall (Read 127 times)
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AngelaR
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Hi Michael
Here we are in 1841 -
Ref HO107/1165/10 Folio 3 Page 1
Address St James' Street, Ludgershall
Harry Richardson - 36 - Ag Lab
Ann Richardson - 42 - Ag Lab
Margaret Richardson - Age difficult to read but looks like 19 -
Sarah Richardson - 12 -
Martha Richardson - 10 -
Jane Richardson - 6 -
Tabitha Richardson - 5 -
Tom (?) Richardson - 2 -
Maria Richardson - 2 -
All given as born in county.
The 1851 census is a bit more difficult. I have a copy of a transcribed index but there are lots of question marks over it, so it would be better to look at the original images, if possible. You would also need to do so for additional information, such as occupation. Unfortunately, although Ludgershall is in Wiltshire, it was included in the Hampshire series of censuses for 1851 (Ref HO107/1683), so either (or neither?) record office may have a copy of the original. People do go to the Wiltshire Record Office reasonably frequently, so it may be worth posting a specific request for someone to look at it for you.
For what it's worth, the 1851 entries (Ref HO107/1683 Folio 57 Page 4 and Folio 258 Page 5) may  be -
RICHARDSON Harry 57 ?? Ludgershall, Wilts.
Ann 52 Ludgershall, Wilts.
Martha 20 Ludgershall, Wilts.
Page 5
RICHARDSON Jane 18 Ludgershall, Wilts.
Tabitha 13 Ludgershall, Wilts.
Mary 11 Ludgershall, Wilts.
Casia Daughter 7 Ludgershall, Wilts.
Elizabeth 5 Ludgershall, Wilts.
Hope this helps a bit
Angela
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AngelaR
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Hi Again Michael
I had another look through the 1841 for any CROUCH's and only found a young couple, Charles(25) and Elizabeth(23) and baby James (1).
There were quite a few Richardsons though, so if you feel confident that Henry is Margaret's father, do shout and I'll give you those as well.
I was wondering if you'd found Margaret's christening record in case there was more information about her parentage there......
Best wishes
Angela
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AngelaR
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Hello Michael
I'm glad there seems to be a match here - it's always so difficult with illegitimate children as, of course, you can never be sure. My own view is that if the marriage is more than a few months after the birth, then it probably doesn't belong to the man in question and may not even if the marriage is immediate 
The only exception I've found so far in my own family is where the parents weren't free to marry at the time of the birth and married a few years later. Do you know when Henry and Ann married?
I also take with a pinch of salt any statements of who the parents are, even by the children themselves. They may not know or may not want to admit to the shame. Almost all branches of my family had an illegitimate child brought up as his own by the subsequent husband - sometimes adopting the surname of the new 'father' and sometimes not.
It certainly makes all this research more interesting 
About Ann's parents - I did have a look for them as I went through, but the young couple were the only ones I found. I did wonder if they were connected in some way. Subsequent censuses give Charles as coming from Chute, so I'll have a quick look for William and Sarah there and let you know if I find anything.
Best wishes
Angela
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AngelaR
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Hi Michael
Well, the faint idea of looking in Chute didn't work - no Crouches there in 1841 
I would have thought Henry and Ann would marry in Ludgershall, with both parties coming from there - if you don't have access to the parish records, I'm sure someone will look them up for you - I'm not planning on going to the record office for another couple of weeks or so yet or I'd look myself.
I share the problem with the base-born stuff though - one of my great great grandfathers appears to be illegitimate (there's no father's name on the marriage certificate and all censuses have him on his own) but the parish records for where he claimed to be born were all destroyed in a fire, so I can't even find his mother......
I hope you do better than that with your search Please do say if you think there's anywher else I can look
Best wishes
Angela
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absolutely right about people naming who they believe their parents to be - I have a few illegitimate children along my direct line - one was christined by her mother as an indication to whom the father is - "Georgina Boshell Reeves" - always called Therese was a Great Grandmother of mine. Her mother was Harriet Amelia Reeves and the father was George Boshell - they never married. I wish more children were named with this sort of clue to their parentage!