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Topic: 1841 & 51 Census Woolwich - NEWNHAM (Read 233 times)
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BK
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Please could someone see if they can find the following people on the 1841 & 51 Woolwich Census for me.
John Edward Joseph Newnham b. abt 1811 Rochester
Frances Mezaler Newnham b. abt 1811 Chelmsford Essex
They were married in 1833 in Chatham
As far as I know they had 2 children (John & Robert) before moving to Woolwich where their daughter Frances was born in May 1841.
I have found most of this family (& subsequent children) on later census returns, with the exception of son John, who is proving to be very elusive! He married Sarah Ann Sweeney (1858 Woolwich) and they had two children John (1861) & Catherine (1862). He then died sometime between 1862 & 1868 (when Sarah remarried). But they don't appear to be on the 1861 census, like the rest of the family!!!
Thanking you in advance
Barbara
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Wyatt, Deacon, Pope, Jefferis, Chater, Viney, Bartlett in Surrounding Villages of Fordingbridge Hampshire
Wyatt & Cammell in South London
Cammell, Pooley, Peake in Suffolk
Wheeler, Stringer, Bosher, White in West London
Wheeler, Stringer, Lucas in Barkingside Essex
Gra(i)nger in Whitechapel East London
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carol_cholsey
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Hi Barbara,
Here's John and family in 1851:
ref HO107 1589 folio 229: 10 Peaks Place, St Marys, Woolwich
John Newnham head mar age 40 bricklayer born Rochester
Frances do wife mar age 40 born Essex Springfield
John do son age 16 carriers labourer born Charlton
Robert do son age 14 carriers labourer born do
Charles do son age 12 scholar born do
Frances do dau age 9 scholar born Woolwich
Sarah do dau age 7 scholar born do
Letham do son age 5 scholar born do
Eliza do dau age 4 born do
William do son age 7 months born do
xx Carol
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WINTON in Sussex & Kent; ALGER, ANTHONEY & MERCER in Rotherhithe, Surrey & Deptford, Kent; WHITBREAD in Shefford, Beds; KEELING in Yorks, Lincs & Leics; BLONK & SEASTRON in Sheffield, Yorks; BENNETT, MILLER, SUMMERS, BOSSLEY, WOULDHAM & SHOVLAR in Gravesend, Kent Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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BK
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Many thanks for that Carol. That helps a lot.
Barbara
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Wyatt, Deacon, Pope, Jefferis, Chater, Viney, Bartlett in Surrounding Villages of Fordingbridge Hampshire
Wyatt & Cammell in South London
Cammell, Pooley, Peake in Suffolk
Wheeler, Stringer, Bosher, White in West London
Wheeler, Stringer, Lucas in Barkingside Essex
Gra(i)nger in Whitechapel East London
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carol_cholsey
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And on the 1841 census:
ref HO107 492-4 folio 23: Peakes Place, Woolwich
John Newnham age 30 bricklayer
Frances do age 30
John do age 7
Robert do age 4
Charles do age 3
Frances do age 1
all born in county
xx Carol
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WINTON in Sussex & Kent; ALGER, ANTHONEY & MERCER in Rotherhithe, Surrey & Deptford, Kent; WHITBREAD in Shefford, Beds; KEELING in Yorks, Lincs & Leics; BLONK & SEASTRON in Sheffield, Yorks; BENNETT, MILLER, SUMMERS, BOSSLEY, WOULDHAM & SHOVLAR in Gravesend, Kent Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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BK
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Thanks again Carol, that's brilliant, your a star.
So they were in Woolwich when the census was taken in 1841.
Thank you Barbara
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Wyatt, Deacon, Pope, Jefferis, Chater, Viney, Bartlett in Surrounding Villages of Fordingbridge Hampshire
Wyatt & Cammell in South London
Cammell, Pooley, Peake in Suffolk
Wheeler, Stringer, Bosher, White in West London
Wheeler, Stringer, Lucas in Barkingside Essex
Gra(i)nger in Whitechapel East London
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hello Barbara and Carol,
I just did a search on the name Mezaler and Google came up with your message about John Newnham and Frances Mallery. These are my direct ancestors and I have been researching them recently.
They had 10 children as far as I can find out and the family appears in all the censuses from 1841 to 1881, living in Woolwich and Plumstead - I haven't checked the 1891 and 1901 censuses yet.
The information about John Newnham helps me fill in a gap. He seems to have been born in 1835 and the birth was registered in Charlton, Kent (now London, of course). I am fairly sure he was the first child. My ancestor was Reuben Newnham who I am pretty sure was the last, being born in 1855.
If you need information about the rest of the family, please let me know.
I would like to get information about John and Frances. Like you I know they were born about 1810 or 1811 - John in Rochester and Frances in Springfield, Colchester, Essex.
Hoping to hear from you.
Regards,
Gerry
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Newnhams in Kent; Tilletts in Kent/Norfolk; Porters in Kent; Langtons in Kent
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carol_cholsey
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Hi Gerry and Barbara,
Not sure if you've found these entries on the cityark website
http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/
Baptism Registers of Rochester St Margarets (1783 - 1812)
Image 113
May 17 1809, William Henry James Newnham son of William and Ann born April 11th
Image 119
March 17 1811, John Edmund Joseph Newman son of William and Ann born Feb 9th (could be 19th)
Although the two surnames are spelled differently, they probably relate to the same family.
Hope this helps with the research,
xx Carol
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WINTON in Sussex & Kent; ALGER, ANTHONEY & MERCER in Rotherhithe, Surrey & Deptford, Kent; WHITBREAD in Shefford, Beds; KEELING in Yorks, Lincs & Leics; BLONK & SEASTRON in Sheffield, Yorks; BENNETT, MILLER, SUMMERS, BOSSLEY, WOULDHAM & SHOVLAR in Gravesend, Kent Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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