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London Custom House??
« on: Thursday 15 September 05 11:20 BST (UK) »

Ellen Rymer Handley was born 18 May 1898, place of birth is given as London Custom House, West Ham.
Can anyone tell me anything about this please?  Is it an area or an actual house? 
Word of mouth in the family said she was born in Canning Town, is this in the same vicinity?
Be glad to get any info.  It all adds leaves to the tree......
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Susan
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« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 September 05 00:16 BST (UK) »


Hi susan

custom house is at canning town.canning town comes under the borough of west ham.the last i knew of it it was a seamans retirement home for the less fortunate.
It is very big and at one time could have been a work house i suspect
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« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 September 05 09:15 BST (UK) »

Thanks for that Alan.
I've tried looking for info on the net but just keep getting hotel sites.  I'll try for Canning Town and West Ham and see what comes up.
Thanks again

Susan
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 September 05 09:19 BST (UK) »

I am interested in knowing about Custom House.
My Grandmother and her three sisters were born there.
I don't think it was a workhouse.
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« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 September 05 09:29 BST (UK) »

I'm also interested in Custom House as I have relatives living there in 1901 so I'd be interested to find out more.
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 September 05 09:43 BST (UK) »

Custom House is an area of London by the Victoria Dock.  Here is a description from the web-site at http://www.lalamy.demon.co.uk/plaistow.htm

"Custom House (part of West Ham)
South-eastern part of Canning Town, an area with a name connected to the Royal Docks which themselves date back to the 1850's when their construction began, firstly on the huge Victoria Dock, (the last - the Albert Dock - opened as late as 1921). As was necessary to house the workforce for the docks, Custom House contains a large amount of domestic working class housing. It was also the home of West Ham Stadium (note: NOT the home of West Ham United, but home to a speedway/dog racing track) which had a capacity for over 100,000 people - demolished in the 1970s."

You can see it on a modern map if you enter 'Custom House' as a GB Place in http://www.streetmap.co.uk/
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« Reply #6 on: Friday 16 September 05 09:44 BST (UK) »

Hello,

To my knowledge Custom House was both a parish district and a building in the Canning Town area of London, sometimes referred to also as a part of West Ham.

As it is situated just north of the Royal Victoria  Docks (some of the most significant docks in London) most of the activity revolved around the maritime trades.  The area got its name from the Custom House (building) which was a focal point of the area and I believe incorporated functions of martime customs administration as well as early dock workers unions.

The area still exists but was heavily bombed during WW2 and redeveloped.  There is still a building "Custom House" but I'm not sure whether it is the original Victorian Building.

Hope that helps.
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« Reply #7 on: Friday 16 September 05 09:56 BST (UK) »

Thanks for the information guys.
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« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 September 05 09:59 BST (UK) »

Thanks guys, very interesting reading. Smiley Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: Friday 16 September 05 10:45 BST (UK) »

Thanks everyone and especially Hughar - that's an interesting web site.
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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 13 November 05 20:26 GMT (UK) »

the only reply that is any where near right is hagar, i was born in cust om house, it is an area north of the royal group of docks now closed, south of the beckton road to the right is canning town to the left is beckton, the city airpord  was built in between the royal abert and king george the 5th dock, if i can help anymore contact me,BARRY. P.S. UP TILL THE 1950S IT CAME UNDER ESSEX BUT HAD A LONDON POST CODE E16, WE HAVE ALWAY THOUGHT OF OURSELFS AS LONDONERS
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« Reply #11 on: Monday 14 November 05 08:01 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for that Barry.
I wonder how familiar you are with the history of the area?  I would appreciate your ideas as to what would have brought my husband's GG Grandparents down from West Yorkshire for a relatively short period of time at the turn of last century.

They were from mining stock and their first three children were born in West Yorks, in the late 1800's - the next three were born in Custom House at the turn of the century and sometime in the next 15 years the whole family moved back to West Yorks.

There doesn't appear to have been any family connections with the area so I'm assuming ti is work of some sort that took them there.  It seems a leap from mining to the docks though.

As I say I'd appreciate any ideas.

Susan
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« Reply #12 on: Monday 14 November 05 09:56 GMT (UK) »

Susan,
The 1901 census shows William Handley as a Stoker (although what was written first is crossed out and not clear).  Maybe he had to come out of the mines, and took the stokers' job as it was closest to what he was used to doing - shovelling coal?

Barry mentioned Beckton, which was the site of one of the country's largest gas works.  And there were others in the area.  They would have needed lots of stokers.

You may find this site useful http://www.portcities.org.uk/london/server/show/ConNarrative.65/chapterId/1553/Powering-the-City.html 
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« Reply #13 on: Monday 14 November 05 10:14 GMT (UK) »

thats prob, it .susan, but they also had stokers on ships in those days, and the royal docks was close by and many seamen lived in custom house, barry
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Re: London Custom House??
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 29 November 05 11:36 GMT (UK) »

Canning Town and Custom house , Beckton have all changed so much since I was a kid growing up around there. It has all undergone new developments. I still have family living in the area, but each time I go to visit it seems it has changed a bit more!
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