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caroline hammill
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Hi Langtry, do you have a rough date of when either of them were born.
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DEVON : Gillard,Horn,Powlesland,Cooper,Crocker,Mallett,Branch
GLOUCESTERSHIRE : Hanks,Pratt,Bowen,Hall,Compton,Lawrence,Morris,Williams, Izard,Dancey,Derrett
WORCESTERSHIRE : James, Wheatcroft
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caroline hammill
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Are "Zeally" and "Case" their maiden names.
Just want to check as i have found the 2 woman on the same page for Marraiges....John Boyland & Albert George Hecks as the Husbands.
CAZ
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DEVON : Gillard,Horn,Powlesland,Cooper,Crocker,Mallett,Branch
GLOUCESTERSHIRE : Hanks,Pratt,Bowen,Hall,Compton,Lawrence,Morris,Williams, Izard,Dancey,Derrett
WORCESTERSHIRE : James, Wheatcroft
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caroline hammill
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Hi Langtry,
Is this John & Elizabeth Boyland on the 1891 census ?
if it is , you can then ask for a 1841 census lookup for John Boyland to see if he's with his parents.....long shot as he'll already be 20 years old.
1891 Membury, Devon, Heath Common
John Boyland 1821 Head Stockland Ag Lab
Elizabeth 1834 Wife Dunkeswell
Robert 1868 Son Membury Carpenter
SOURCE : RG12/1668
FOLIO : 71
PAGE : 4
Good Luck
CAZ
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GLOUCESTERSHIRE : Hanks,Pratt,Bowen,Hall,Compton,Lawrence,Morris,Williams, Izard,Dancey,Derrett
WORCESTERSHIRE : James, Wheatcroft
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caroline hammill
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Hi Langtry,
I'll have to try and find her on previous census returns to try and see which Elizabeth she was.
I'll try and do it today.
CAZ
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GLOUCESTERSHIRE : Hanks,Pratt,Bowen,Hall,Compton,Lawrence,Morris,Williams, Izard,Dancey,Derrett
WORCESTERSHIRE : James, Wheatcroft
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caroline hammill
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Hi Langtry,
I've just noticed that you said you had the marraiges down as Circa 1860..
I have the marraige in 1889.
This is the reference that i found..
Elizabeth Zealley & Elizabeth Case Marraiges June Quarter 1889 Chard Devon Dorset Somerset VOLUME 5c PAGE 672
And the 2 Husbands were : John Boyland & Albert George Hecks.
CAZ
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WORCESTERSHIRE : James, Wheatcroft
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caroline hammill
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Hi Langtry,
I've tried looking for both Elizabeth's on census returns before the marraige in 1889, i cant find either born c1834 from Dunkeswell. 
Think you're going to have to order the marraige certificate to see which Elizabeth it was that John Married.
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GLOUCESTERSHIRE : Hanks,Pratt,Bowen,Hall,Compton,Lawrence,Morris,Williams, Izard,Dancey,Derrett
WORCESTERSHIRE : James, Wheatcroft
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caroline hammill
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Hi Langtry on the 1891 census i found the other Elizabeth.
1891 Brimley, Stoke Abbot, Devon
Albert G Hecks 1864 Head Chard, Somerset
Elizabeth 1861 Wife Hawkchurch, Somerset
Reginald G 1890 Son Stoke Abbot, somerset
SOURCE : RG12/1661
FOLIO : 97
PAGE : 2
But again, i cant find her on earlier census returns. 
So you have to try and figure out which DOB & Place of birth goes with who.......
Elizabeth Zealley & Elizabeth Case
1833 Dunkeswell & 1861 Hawkchurch
GOOD LUCK
CAZ
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WORCESTERSHIRE : James, Wheatcroft
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caroline hammill
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OKAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!! now to really confuse the marraige date up...
If the marraige reference was for the year 1889 why have i just found John & elizabeth Boyland on the 1871 census with kids !!!! 
1871 Membury, Devon. Cant read the address
John boyland 1823 Head Stockland
Elizabeth 1833 Wife Dunkeswell
Sarah A 1857 Dau Membury
John T 1864 Son Membury
Elizabeth F 1866 Dau Membury
Robert F 1869 Son membury
George A 1870 Son Membury
SOURCE : RG10/2034
FOLIO : 84
PAGE : 8
NOW I NEED HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone out there who can solve this one for Langtry 
CAZ
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WORCESTERSHIRE : James, Wheatcroft
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Hi
Seems like we are talking about two different John Boylands here
Marriages Jun 1860
Boyland John Chard 5c 811
Budd Emma Catharine Chard 5c 811
Budd Emma Catherine Chard 5c 811
FOLLETT Marian Caroline Chard 5c 811
FOLLETT Mary Ann Caroline Chard 5c 811
GLYDE Richard Brutus Chard 5c 811
1881 census
Mallins Stockland, Devon,
RG11 /2128 fol 60 page 15
John BOYLAND Head M 41 Stockland, Devon, Boot Maker
Emma BOYLAND Wife M 37 Stockland, Devon,
Sidney J. BOYLAND Son 12 Stockland, Devon, Scholar
Emily BOYLAND Daur 9 Stockland, Devon, Scholar
Samuel BOYLAND Son 7 Stockland, Devon, Scholar
Aruther BOYLAND Son 2 Stockland, Devon,
Samuel SUMMERS Boarder W 77 Stockland, Devon, Ag Lab
and also in 1881
Matthews Cottage Membury, Devon,
RG11 /2128 fol 82 page 11
John BOYLAND Head M 58 Stockland, Devon, Labourer (AL)
Elizabeth BOYLAND Wife M 46 Dunkeswell, Devon,
John T. BOYLAND Son U 17 Membury, Devon, Servant (AL)
Robert BOYLAND Son 12 Membury, Devon, Servant (AL)
George BOYLAND Son 10 Membury, Devon, Scholar
In 1891
RG12/1668 fol 40 p1
RD Axminster
SubRD Chardstock
ED 5
CP Stockland
Boyland, Emma 1844 Stockland, Devon, Head Boot binder
Boyland, Emily 1872 Stockland, Devon, Daughter
Boyland, Samuel E 1874 Stockland, Devon, Son
Boyland, Auther W 1879 Stockland, Devon, Son
Boyland, Reignald H 1885 Stockland, Devon, Son
Boyland, Hannah 1814 Stockland, Devon, Mother-in-law
seems to be some confusion if she is married or single (but not wid)
RG12/1668 fol 71 p 4
RD Axminster
Sub RD Chardstock
ED 8
CP Membury
Boyland, John 1821 Stockland, Devon, Head Ag Lab
Boyland, Elizabeth 1834 Dunkeswell, Devon, Wife
Boyland, Robert 1868 Membury, Devon, Son
Unless John Boyland b. 1821 Stockland conveniently managed to marry a second Elizabeth in 1889 who was born same year (1834) and place (Dunkeswell) as his first wife then I dont think either of these are the parties in the 1889 marriage
Marriages Jun 1889
BOYLAND John Chard 5c 672
Case Elizabeth Chard 5c 672
Hecks Albert George Chard 5c 672
Zealley Elizabeth Chard 5c 672
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ec
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This is possibly the 1889 married couple in 1891
Boyland, John 1867 Chaffcombe, Somerset, Head Farm Labourer
Boyland, Elizabeth 1869 Crewkerne, Somerset, Wife
Boyland, Frank 1890 Chard, Somerset, Son
RG12/1893 fol 76 p47
RD Chard
Sub RD Chard
ED 3
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caroline hammill
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Hi EC,
Thanks for sorting it out, my brain was turning to mush. 
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GLOUCESTERSHIRE : Hanks,Pratt,Bowen,Hall,Compton,Lawrence,Morris,Williams, Izard,Dancey,Derrett
WORCESTERSHIRE : James, Wheatcroft
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