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Kellys 1933 Look Up Please
« on: Thursday 15 September 05 13:22 BST (UK) »

Hi Trisha

Thank you very much for your offer of a directory look up!

Please, is there an entry for:
Mark BATES, he was a machine owner, or farmer, in the Gosberton area in Lincs? If you notice any other entry for BATES in the same area that would be wonderful too.

Thank you  Smiley

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Re: Kellys 1933 Look Up Please
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 September 05 14:51 BST (UK) »

Hi Angelfish,
I found the following-

Under Gosbeton,Westhorpe,Spalding
In the commercial section
Bates Bros-Thrashing Machine Owners
Westhorpe is about 1 1/4 miles west of Gosberton

Other Thrashing machine owners with the surname Bates are:-
Mrs E.Bates-Newton upon Trent-Lincoln.

Other Bates in the surroundng area (plus a few more further out because they were in the same trade)
Private residents
Algernon BATES-Swinderby
Charles BATES-16 Dudley Street,Grimsby
Harold BATES-Quebec Road,Mablethorpe
James Herbert BATES-Brakenhill cotage,Eastlond,Doncaster
Miss BATES-44,Bridge Road,Sutton Bridge,Wisbech
Miss BATES-The Hoeland,Ingham ,Lincoln
Mrs BATES-Fosbrooke House,Spring Gardens,Spalding
Miss BATES-5 Henrietta Street,Spalding
Thomas BATES-75,Little London,Spalding

FARMERS
Enderby BATES-Coningsby,Mareham Le Fen,Boston
Harry BATES-Friskney,Boston
James BATES-Welton Hill,Welton,Lincoln
Lawrence E .BATES-Blyton,Gainsboro'
Martin BATES-The Beeches,Long Sutton,Wisbech
Martin BATES Jnr-Charterhouse Lane,Long Sutton,Wisbech
Stanley BATES-Weston Hills,Spalding
Noah BATES-77 Stonegate,Spalding
Jack BATES-West End,Frampton
James BATES-Cowkeeper-Folkingham
Harry BATES-Friskney

OTHERS
Alfred BATES-Baker-20 Winsover Road,Spalding
Mrs Helen M.BATES-Bulbgrower,Hawthorn Bank,SpaldingT.N.263
Harry William BATES-Draper12 New Street,Spalding.
Arthur BATES-Confectioner-30,Northgate,Sleaford
Arthur BATES-Tailor-25 East gate,Sleaford
T .BATES and son-Haulage contractors.T.N.Billingborough 17-Pointon

I searched the following places,
Gosberton
Boston
Spalding
Pinchbeck
Fosdyke,
Bicker
Surfleet
Donnington
Kirton
Quadring
Helpringham
Huberts Bridge
Algakirk
Friskney
Sleaford
Aswarby
Billingboro'
Folkingham
Rippingale
Edenham
Bourne
Weston,Weston Hills
Moulton,Moulton Chapel,Moulton Seas End
Whaplode,Whaplode Drove
Holbeach
Wildmore
New York
Rippingale
Wigtoft
Morton
Dunsby
Sempringham
Pointon

Hope all of that is some use to you,
Best wishes,
Trisha Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Nottinghamshire: Pacey Hoe Hubbard Taylor,Plumber,Ownsworth,Harvey
Lincolnshire: Pacey Ragsdell Trafford Skelton Norton Lincoln Chester Smith Gilbert Palmer Rawding Baggerley Pask Welch Wright Green Clarke Dawson Grey Johnson Burton Wright Scargall Day.
Bedfordshire: Timms Virgin Hallsworth Kirby Osborn Basset Nixson Harding Odell Clark Thompson.
Northamptonshire: Ragsdell Waller Coales Breem Peak Wallet. Drake.
Norfolk: Palmer Howard Harpely Codling Mark
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Re: Kellys 1933 Look Up Please
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 September 05 15:05 BST (UK) »

Hi Trisha

Wow thats wonderful, thank you for that!

Angelfish


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Re: Kellys 1933 Look Up Please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 September 05 13:24 BST (UK) »

Hi Angelfish,
I've just got myself a copy of Kellys 1926 directory and I rememered I'ld done the look up for you in my copy of the 1933 edition.
I looked up your Bates and bros in Gosberton and found this slightly different entry:-

Mrs Elizabeth BATES-Thrashing Machine owner-Westhorpe.

Best wishes,
Trisha Smiley Smiley
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Nottinghamshire: Pacey Hoe Hubbard Taylor,Plumber,Ownsworth,Harvey
Lincolnshire: Pacey Ragsdell Trafford Skelton Norton Lincoln Chester Smith Gilbert Palmer Rawding Baggerley Pask Welch Wright Green Clarke Dawson Grey Johnson Burton Wright Scargall Day.
Bedfordshire: Timms Virgin Hallsworth Kirby Osborn Basset Nixson Harding Odell Clark Thompson.
Northamptonshire: Ragsdell Waller Coales Breem Peak Wallet. Drake.
Norfolk: Palmer Howard Harpely Codling Mark
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Re: Kellys 1933 Look Up Please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 September 05 17:19 BST (UK) »

Thank you again for thinking of me Trisha.

I wonder if that is my GGreat Grandma.  She was Mrs Eliza (not Elizabeth) Bates, in 1926 her husband had already died.  She died in 1931, so her sons would have taken over by the 1933 directory.

I'd be interested to know if anyone else thinks if that could be my Eliza on the directory. (She was known as Eliza on the census and on her marriage certificate but never Elizabeth. I do not have her birth certificate, her maiden name was Brown bn c1847 Quadring, there are quite a few listed on freeBMD).

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Re: Kellys 1933 Look Up Please
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 September 05 19:32 BST (UK) »

Hi Angelfish,
her name is Eliza.
In the actual gazeteer for Gosberton she is down as Eliza BATES(Mrs),but in the trades index at the back she is down as Elizabeth Bates not Eliza.Perhaps she was christened as Elizabeth but was always known as Eliza and always put this shortened name down on the census,which is not at all uncommon.
Glad to be of help.
Any one else you want me to look at in these directories at all ?
Best wishes,
Trisha Smiley Smiley
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Nottinghamshire: Pacey Hoe Hubbard Taylor,Plumber,Ownsworth,Harvey
Lincolnshire: Pacey Ragsdell Trafford Skelton Norton Lincoln Chester Smith Gilbert Palmer Rawding Baggerley Pask Welch Wright Green Clarke Dawson Grey Johnson Burton Wright Scargall Day.
Bedfordshire: Timms Virgin Hallsworth Kirby Osborn Basset Nixson Harding Odell Clark Thompson.
Northamptonshire: Ragsdell Waller Coales Breem Peak Wallet. Drake.
Norfolk: Palmer Howard Harpely Codling Mark
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Re: Kellys 1933 Look Up Please
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 22 September 05 14:35 BST (UK) »

Grin  Hi

I would like to know if there is a George WOOD listed, Gosberton area, but I do not know what occupation he had .  His wife was Kate, formerly Haresign.  His farther was William Draper WOOD, same area.

Thanks  Smiley

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Re: Kellys 1933 Look Up Please
« Reply #7 on: Friday 23 September 05 11:33 BST (UK) »

Hi Angelfish,
I looked at both my directories-1926 and 1933 and found this:-

In both:-
William Draper WOOD-Blacksmith-Risegate,Clough(Gosberton Clough I presume)
Found the following George WOODS's.I'll put the year afterwards.
Farmers
George Henry WOOD(S)-Thorpe St Peter,Wainfleet (1926/1933) N.B This same man is I think also down as a private Resident in 1926.(see below)
George Walter WOODS-Lade Bank,New Leake,Boston. (1926/1933)
George Henry WOODS-Tetney,North Thoresby(1926)
Smallholders
George William WOODS-Moor,Roughton,Woodhall Spa,Lincoln

Private Resident
George Henry WOODS-Westfield,Wainfleet All Saints

There were quite a few Haresign's around Gosberton.Mostly farmers.

Farmers(only looked 1933)
George Haresign--Risegate,Fen
Harry HARESIGN-Risegate,Fen
Herbert HARESIGN-Risegate,Fen

Motor repairs
George Alfred HARESIGN-Risegate

Other Woods,Drapers and Haresigns I found in the near vicinity were;-
Fred WODDS-Farmer-Asperton,Wigtoft(1933)
Wood Bros-Farmers,Fen,Quadring(1933)
George DRAPER-smallholder-Fen,Quadring(1933)
Mrs A.M.HARESIGN-Private resident,Moneybridge Farm,Pinchbeck(1933)
Jesse HARESIGN-Farmer-Starlode Farm,Pinchbeck West(1933)
William HARESIGN-Farmer-Blackhole Drove,Pinchbeck West(1933)
Jabez DRAPER-Cottage Farmer-Gosberton(1926)
Fred WOOD-Farmer-Gosberton(1929)
H.WOOD-Farmer,Gosberton(1929)
George DRAPER-Smallholder-Westhorpe(1929)

N.B- The years indicate that I only checked that name against that particular year.It doesn't necessarily mean that they aren't in the other directory.

Hope thats all of some help.
Again,don't hesitate to ask if you wan't any other lookup's. Smiley
Best wishes,
Trisha Smiley Smiley


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Nottinghamshire: Pacey Hoe Hubbard Taylor,Plumber,Ownsworth,Harvey
Lincolnshire: Pacey Ragsdell Trafford Skelton Norton Lincoln Chester Smith Gilbert Palmer Rawding Baggerley Pask Welch Wright Green Clarke Dawson Grey Johnson Burton Wright Scargall Day.
Bedfordshire: Timms Virgin Hallsworth Kirby Osborn Basset Nixson Harding Odell Clark Thompson.
Northamptonshire: Ragsdell Waller Coales Breem Peak Wallet. Drake.
Norfolk: Palmer Howard Harpely Codling Mark
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Re: Kellys 1933 Look Up Please
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 28 September 05 11:39 BST (UK) »

Thank you Trisha  Smiley
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