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jericho
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Andrews/Greenwood connection
« on: Saturday 17 September 05 08:24 BST (UK) »

I am hoping that some one can help sort out this puzzle for me as I've been trying for some time with no postive result.

My Greatgrandmother Mary Dewar was born abt 1824,I know nothing about where she was born or who her Parents were.
She arrived in Nelson in 1842 on the Prince of Wales.She married Joseph Andrews in Nelson in 1844 and she and Joseph had about 10 children.
Joseph died in Hoults Valley in 1907.
And some time after this Mary moved to Hastings where she died on the 21 Jan 1916 age 91.
Now my puzzle begins,she is buried in Hastings cemetery Block B Plot Number 90, also in the same plot is an Edith Greenwood, she died on the 26 Dec 1930. I am trying to find a connection between the two women, are they Mother and Daughter, or Grandmother and Grandchild.

I have written to the Sexton, at Hastings cemetery
the Hastings District Council and the HB Branch of NZSG,with out being able to establish any link but really want to establish some links between the Andrews and Greenwood Families before I buy any Certificates. Can any one help.


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Re: Andrews/Greenwood connection
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 September 05 01:02 BST (UK) »

Hi Jericho,

Could they perhaps be sisters, or sisters-in-law?

Do you have the death or marriage certificate for your known ancestor, Mary DEWAR? The former should give the parents, as in the early years the latter did not list the parents. If not, it would be a safe bet to buy the death certificate at least.

I'll see what I can dig up.

Regards, riley


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Re: Andrews/Greenwood connection
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 September 05 01:18 BST (UK) »

Hi Riley

As far as I know Mary was the only one in her family to go to NZ, from what I've been told,don't have Mary Andrews certificate as yet, as I've only found where she was buried a while ago, it was always believed that she was buried in the family plot in Nelson, and it wasn't until I found her in Hastings that we knew for sure where she died.There are a few Greenwoods buried in Hastings, and from what its says on the information about her plot it was paid for by Mrs Greenwood, so I'm trying to find the connection before I send away for the certificates. As far as I know Mary and Joseph Andrews didn't have a Daughter called Edith.
All your help would be appreciated.


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Mk2_Zephyr
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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 September 05 02:15 BST (UK) »

Could be the wrong Mary.

Being one of the early familes to arrive, there should be extra information from the local history places, esp Nelson.


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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 18 September 05 02:27 BST (UK) »

Mk2_Zephyr

I have checked this info as far as getting the obituary from the local Newspaper, and it says relict of the late Joseph Andrews of Nelson.So I'm fairly certain she is my Greatgrandmother.


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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 September 05 14:00 BST (UK) »

On the death certificate it should give all the ages of the living children, plus parents etc.

How old was Edith when she died ?

Have you got Edith's obituary ?

Unless she died young, it will be Marys daughter not granddaughter.

Nelson does have great family history resources for all the early families and it will be worth checking out the local records.

My guess is Mary came up to Hastings to live with her daughter.

Get the death certificate of Mary anyway and I will have a scan for the Andrews-Greenwood marriage.

Where abouts are you ?

Mark


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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 September 05 22:09 BST (UK) »

Hi Mark

As I said to Riley, I don't think that Mary and Joseph had a daughter Edith, thats why I'm looking for more information before I buy the certificate.I have no idea how old Edith was when she died. Yes I have done most of my research in Nelson already, but could not find Mary there and have only just found her in Hastings. Yes I am planning to get Mary death certificate but finances are a little restricted at present. I am living on the Gold Coast, so its not as easy now to do all my research, like when I was living in NZ.


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Re: Andrews/Greenwood connection
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 September 05 01:58 BST (UK) »

Gidday Jericho,

Go to the Nelson City Council Early Settlers Database at
http://www.ncc.govt.nz/net/settlers/search.aspx

Search parameters:
Surname: DEWAR
Year: 1842

I won't tell you what I found, but it answers two of your questions.

Happy hunting, riley


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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 21 September 05 02:58 BST (UK) »

Edith Greenwood second daughter of J & V Greenwood, died 24th dec 1930, aged 47.

Joseph Greenwood died 1907 aged 62
Virtue Emily Greenwood died 1922 aged 71

No Greenwoods living in Hastings- Napier on freeholders list 1882, but one in Waimea and a Joseph on the West Coast.

does Virtue ring a bell ?


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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 21 September 05 03:07 BST (UK) »

Hi Mark

I'm beginning to believe that my suspicions are right and that Virtue may have been Mary and Joseph Andrews daughter, is there any way to find out without my having to get her death certificate just to be certain. Thanks that is excellent.

regards
jericho


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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 22 September 05 14:29 BST (UK) »

Jericho, in an earlier post you have a Virtue Andrews born to Joseph and Mary !

Did you forget ?

I don't mind doing some research, but I don't want to cover ground thats already been done.

re the info from Michael Hobbs.


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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 22 September 05 20:57 BST (UK) »

Mark

Yes I did say that I believed that Joseph and Mary Andrews had a daughter,called Virtue, but I have always been lead to believe that she along with other siblings had died in early childhood.I'm sorry if you feel upset about having to reread all my posts, but I can only go on the information I have also, that is why I posted here in the first place.As far as I know contact with the Andrews family was broken many years ago, and even my mother and her siblings who are well in their 70's have never met them, even thought they all live in NZ. So what little information I have comes from these post. This also goes to show that we should never believe what we are told until all avenues are exhausted.Thanks for your time.


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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 22 September 05 22:58 BST (UK) »

Thats okay, what I mean is you should have put the kids in this post, that were in the other Andrews post.

I then could have searched for all the births, etc .... and got MORE info.

No worries.


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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 22 September 05 23:11 BST (UK) »

Edith Annie May Greenwood born 1882 Reefton.

also buried with Joseph and Virtue ...

Wilfred Raymond Greenwood

husband of Annie Jean Markham

... (only son of Wilfred and Elsie Markham) Huh

?

Don't what is going on there but since they are your lot, I will get all the extra info today.


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« Reply #14 on: Friday 23 September 05 01:37 BST (UK) »

Joseph Greenwood died 23rd Jan 1907 aged 62

Virtue Emily Greenwood died 19th June 1922 aged 71

Wilfred Raymond Greenwood died 2nd Sept 1936, aged 23


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