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proteantime
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Hi,
I'm hoping someone can help me with a lookup of the following marriage to ascertain the names of parents, occupations and adresses:
25/04/1860 Castlemaine Victoria
Christopher George REA (born in Penrith Cumberland) 1824 to
Elizabeth MAXWELL (born Largs, Ayrshire) 1832
I have tried in vain to find Christopher's immigrant records however, the family gossip suggests he may have jumped ship.
Any help appreciated.
Kirsten Beach
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Beach (Faversham, Whitstable, Kent , Windsor Bucks) Reay, Waller, Hutton (Cumberland, Westmorland) Oppenheim (Hamburg, Mecklenberg, Manchester) Cassell, Dickinson, Walter (London, Kent and Surrey) Bury, Heywood, Cohen, Sichel (Lancashire) Thompson (Great Yarmouth, London and Kent) Brewer, Harvey (Suffolk, Norfolk) Mathison (Newcastle upon Tyne) http://www.webpalette.co.uk/Oppenheims.htm( http://p104.ezboard.com/fdittofrm19) Census info. is Crown Copyright www.pro.gov. |
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JAP
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Hello Kirsten,
The indexes do not list parents' names for marriages.
The reference number for the marriage of Christopher REA and Elizabeth MAXWELL in 1860 is Number 1118.
Certificates can be purchased and downloaded online at:
Click Here for Victorian BMD
JAP
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Scotland - HALL, HARLEY, LOCHTY/LOCHTIE/LOUGHTIE/LOUGHTY (very rare), MCLAUSE/MCLAWS/MCILHOSE/HOSE (quite rare and many very variable spellings - close to 100 to date), PHILP/PHILIP, VASSIE; Ireland - BOURKE/BURKE, DONOHUE (many spellings), DOOLEY, KINSELLA, MAXWELL, OSBORNE, RAFFERTY, STA(U)NTON, SULLIVAN; England - BAYES, BROWNELL, DALTON, FREEMAN, HACKING, PIERCY, SIDDLE, SWIFT, SULLIVAN, TINK(L)ER, TRIPPIT. Any spellings and many other names!
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thank you greatly! 
Kirsten Beach
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Beach (Faversham, Whitstable, Kent , Windsor Bucks) Reay, Waller, Hutton (Cumberland, Westmorland) Oppenheim (Hamburg, Mecklenberg, Manchester) Cassell, Dickinson, Walter (London, Kent and Surrey) Bury, Heywood, Cohen, Sichel (Lancashire) Thompson (Great Yarmouth, London and Kent) Brewer, Harvey (Suffolk, Norfolk) Mathison (Newcastle upon Tyne) http://www.webpalette.co.uk/Oppenheims.htm( http://p104.ezboard.com/fdittofrm19) Census info. is Crown Copyright www.pro.gov. |
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Hello Kirsten,
There were a couple of children to Christopher and Elizabeth - Isabella in 1862 and Thomas John Maxwell in 1863. I didn't find any other relevant REA records.
Cheers,
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Scotland - HALL, HARLEY, LOCHTY/LOCHTIE/LOUGHTIE/LOUGHTY (very rare), MCLAUSE/MCLAWS/MCILHOSE/HOSE (quite rare and many very variable spellings - close to 100 to date), PHILP/PHILIP, VASSIE; Ireland - BOURKE/BURKE, DONOHUE (many spellings), DOOLEY, KINSELLA, MAXWELL, OSBORNE, RAFFERTY, STA(U)NTON, SULLIVAN; England - BAYES, BROWNELL, DALTON, FREEMAN, HACKING, PIERCY, SIDDLE, SWIFT, SULLIVAN, TINK(L)ER, TRIPPIT. Any spellings and many other names!
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proteantime
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That's brilliant!
Their third child (direct descendant) was born in Naseby, Otago, NZ and died in Perth Western Australia.
I'll endeavour to see what became of the other two now (that I had not known about prior).
Immensely grateful.
Kirsten
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Beach (Faversham, Whitstable, Kent , Windsor Bucks) Reay, Waller, Hutton (Cumberland, Westmorland) Oppenheim (Hamburg, Mecklenberg, Manchester) Cassell, Dickinson, Walter (London, Kent and Surrey) Bury, Heywood, Cohen, Sichel (Lancashire) Thompson (Great Yarmouth, London and Kent) Brewer, Harvey (Suffolk, Norfolk) Mathison (Newcastle upon Tyne) http://www.webpalette.co.uk/Oppenheims.htm( http://p104.ezboard.com/fdittofrm19) Census info. is Crown Copyright www.pro.gov. |
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Hi Kirsten,
I nearly didn't mention them assuming that you would have known about them! It's a good idea to give more info in your request - would have saved me from searching for deaths etc if I'd known that they moved away from Vic.
Here are the full entries for the other two.
REA Isabella, father Christopher, mother Elizabet MAXWELL, born TARA (possibly Taradale?) in 1862 #1301
REA Thos John Maxwell, father Christopher, mother Elizabeth MAXWELL, born STRA (possibly Strathloddon or - less likely? - Strathbogie?) in 1863 #16393
Were there any REA or MAXWELL relatives in Victoria? Do you know the names of the parents of Christopher and Elizabeth?
Cheers,
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Scotland - HALL, HARLEY, LOCHTY/LOCHTIE/LOUGHTIE/LOUGHTY (very rare), MCLAUSE/MCLAWS/MCILHOSE/HOSE (quite rare and many very variable spellings - close to 100 to date), PHILP/PHILIP, VASSIE; Ireland - BOURKE/BURKE, DONOHUE (many spellings), DOOLEY, KINSELLA, MAXWELL, OSBORNE, RAFFERTY, STA(U)NTON, SULLIVAN; England - BAYES, BROWNELL, DALTON, FREEMAN, HACKING, PIERCY, SIDDLE, SWIFT, SULLIVAN, TINK(L)ER, TRIPPIT. Any spellings and many other names!
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Hi,
No there wouldn't have been any living relatives in Victoria if both those children died before they went to NZ and had Robert James Rea in 1867.
Christopher George REA was born in Penrith, Cumberland in 1824 and arrived in Australia as an immigrant, although I have no record of the ship he departed on and this is possibly due to the family rumour that he jumped ship.
Elizabeth Maxwell was born in Largs, Ayrshire in Scotland in 1832 and arrived in Australia in 1855. Again I have no record of the ship however, the family story goes that she was on a ship full of girls being shipped out for domestic service and that Elizabeth was assigned as a housekeeper to someone in Melbourne.
How they met, had children or ended up in New Zealand is a bit of a mystery at the moment.
However, I do know that Christopher died in NZ in 1888, likewise Elizabeth in 1898.
Their son (my great grandfather) moved to Kookynie (north of Kalgoorlie) in Western Australia where he was a goldsmith/watchmaker/jeweller and quite prosperous.
I guess the trouble with goldmining and prospecting is that the people tend to be fairly nomadic.
I actually don't know if the children survived to be taken to New Zealand as I haven't found the family on any shipping records.
It is possible that both children died as they haven't been spoken of at all in the family.
many thanks
Kirsten Beach
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Hi again Kirsten,
I guess I didn't make myself clear. I was wondering whether any of Christopher's or Elizabeth's siblings might have been in Victoria. That's why I wondered if you knew their parents' names as that would be the only way to trace them.
It's maddening when one has ancestors who 'swam' to Australia. I have several such including James Christie ROBINSON and Jane Ann HALL who married in St Peters Eastern Hill in 1852 (said to have been on Jane's 16th birthday). And we can't find a death for James - he has been variously referred to as a man-o'-war's man and/or a crew member of the ship Jane came on. At least I can trace Jane Ann back to Glasgow and thence her mother (who - widowed when Jane came to Australia - stayed in Scotland as did Jane's sister Euphemia) to Kippen, Stirlingshire and a quite rare maiden name. But James is a total mystery.
One does wonder what drove people to move around as they did. My Gran, born in England in 1872, migrated with her family in 1875 to NZ (landing at The Bluff) and, as young women, she and her sister went from Christchurch to Melbourne ... On my children's paternal side, a chap born in Fife, Scotland in 1835, was a hotelkeeper in Melbourne in 1861 when he married, and then turned up in NZ running hotels in Queenstown and then Dunedin where he and his Irish-born wife died ...
Anyway, if you have Christopher's and Elizabeth's parents' names, I'll be very happy to have a look.
Incidentally, there is no sign of deaths of Isabella and Thomas in the Victorian records.
Regards,
JAP
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Hi,
Nomadic searching for a "better life" I imagine from the bleak slow death of the industrial revolution. It's funny though that it seems to be almost a genetic trait with these members of the family. That they tended to marry other people with the same thirst for adventure and broader horizons.
The son of Christopher Rea (Robert James) married Eva Grant, who although from third fleet stock was in quite a comfortable position when she was the personal wardrobe assistant to a lady doing a world tour on an ocean liner. The story goes that when she had finally circumnavigated the globe and the ship came to Perth to refuel etc, that the wealthy employer suddenly fell ill and died. But rather than go back to her family in the eastern states she took a job in the city working at a hotel and subsequently met Robert who came to the city often to sell his gold and replentish his supplies.
Christopher's parents were:
William Reay (b:29/08/1794) Penrith Cumberland
Eleanor nee Waller b:01/02/1798 Orton, Westmorland
Elizabeth nee Maxwell (b: 29/01/1832 Largs, Ayrshire
her parents were:
Thomas Maxwell (b:10/07/1804 Kirkmaiden, Wigtown)
Ann nee Dunn (b:10/07/1800 Inch, Wigtown)
I haven't been able to establish who Elizabeth's siblings were at this stage however, it is possible that Christopher had a brother Robert and a sister Elspeth.
Thanks for all your help, it just gets more and more interesting the more I know.
warmest regards
Kirsten Beach
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Sorry Kirsten, I didn't find anything else ...
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Thank you for all your help, I believe their next stop was Port Chalmer in New Zealand. Your help was invaluable.
cheers
Kirsten Beach
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