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islander
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My great grandmother, Elizabeth Ellen Cameron gave her birthplace as FERBERTHAM in Kent on the 1891 census. This census was taken in deepest Devon, so accents were probably a problem.
Her father's name on her marriage certificate is illegible and the only probably entry on the 1881 gives Chatham as ther birthplace.
I can't possible have a brick wall so early!
Any help please.
She would have been born c1861.
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casalguidi
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Hi Islander
Could we please have a census ref. or more info on the family (exactly as they appear) in 1891 so as we can take a look?
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islander
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The 1891 census ref . is:
RG12/1722 PLYMPTON ST MARY.
EnumDist: 3, Fol: 39, Page: 10, Schd: 46
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PrueM
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Definitely looks like "Ferbertham" doesn't it?? 
THe only thing about it that doesn't look right is that the first r in the word isn't as well formed as all the other r's on the page...but I can't think of what else it could be.
Is she on the 1901?
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (Banff) – SWAN (Fife) – WOOD (LND)
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casalguidi
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Hi Islander
I can see where Salty's coming from with the Faversham but I wouldn't associate Chatham with Faversham. A mystery 
Is the father's name on the marriage that bad? Is there anything that it looks like? What about his occupation?
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islander
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Yes, but on the 1901 it just says 'Kent'.
Her father was a sailor, which isn't a lot of help! His name looks closer to Enoch than anything else (and looking at it now, in just the light of the pc, that could well be what it is!)
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PrueM
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It could be Faversham even though it's a way from Chatham.
I have one ancestor who put in every census that he was born in Bath, Somerset. We looked for him in vain, and then found him in 1861 - when he said he was born in Woodlands, Dorset !! We still haven't found his birth, but it just proves a point that you never can 100% trust your forebears to know what they were talking about!
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (Banff) – SWAN (Fife) – WOOD (LND)
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Heather DD
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Looking at earlier censuses, the Chatham Elizabeth looks a good bet
RG10 1166 165 37
Upton Road, Ryde, Isle of Wight
Neil Cameron head 40 mariner Kent Chatham, as were all
Susan wife 35
Edward son 12
Elizabeth dau 10
Ellen dau 7
Tom son 5
William son 2
RG9 479 52 11
High Street Gillingham
Susan Cameron wife 24 seamans wife Gillingham
Edward son 2 Gillingham
Elizabeth dau 6 months Gillingham
You could do with finding her birth, but the closest I could see is an Elizabeth Charlotte registered Medway in the Dec q of 1860
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casalguidi
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Following on from Heather's post there is a:
Neil CAMERON from Chatham/Gillingham (a mariner) who had a daugher Elizabeth but she was baptised Elizabeth Charlotte 11 Nov 1860 Gillingham.
It might be worthwhile searching the other parish registers for the Medway area to see if you can find the corresponding baptism for the Elizabeth CAMERON birth registered March quarter 1862 Medway registration district http://freebmd.rootsweb.com
http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=Search&PathList=%2FZ4a_Medway_Ancestors%2F%0A&SearchWords=&DateList
There was also an Allan CAMERON (mariner) from Chatham/Gillingham who had a daugher Elizabeth but she appears to have been Elizabeth J bc1857 (1861 census Gillingham) RG9/479 folio 17 page 6
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islander
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Thank you all for your help on this.
My thinking is that the Chatham one may be right due to the fact she was in service, as was her husband, John Lavers. They married in 1889 and her father isn't shown as deceased but none of her family were witnesses.
The sister Ellen on the 1871 might have died and Elizabeth's middle name changed... or am I just getting carried away??
Funny things, these ancestors.
Thanks again
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