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Thomas HART [locksmith] & Eve GREEN
« on: Thursday 04 August 05 15:26 BST (UK) »

Hi
Looking for info or connections to either Thomas Hart or Eve Green

Thomas Hart born Abt 1844 Wednesfield. Occupation Key & Lockmaker. Believed to have made the Locks for Queen Marys Dolls House. The family moved around a lot through Thomas's work.

Thomas married Eve Green 1868 Wolverhampton

Eve Green born Abt 1846 Armitage have no further info on her parents.

Thomas & Eve's Children are

Thomas Albert Hart Born Abt 1872 Liverpool ~ married Betsy Jane Male

Arthur Edward Hart Born Abt 1881 Liverpool

Lucy Hart Born Abt 1883 Liverpool Died 1962~ Married George Pearce

Lillian E Hart Born 22 Sept 1885 Peckham London

Lydia Hart Born16 Aug 1888 Peckham London

Rueben Hart Born Abt 1893 Heath Town Staffordshire ~ Had a daughter Elizabeth [Betty] married Wilks

Nellie Hart Born Abt 1896 Heath Town Staffordshire

Any descendants out there!
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HILL ~ Wicklow Ireland & New Zealand
PHILLIPS - FILGATE ~ Wicklow Ireland
MIDDLETON ~ Staffordshire & New Zealand
HART - GREEN - TURNER ~ Staffordshire
PEARCE ~ Gt Malvern Worcestershire
HYDE ~ Madresfield & Powick Worcestershire
BARNES - BAYLIS Worcestershire
BEDWARD ~ Hanley Castle Worcestershire & Surrey
BROWN ~ Newcastle Upon Tyne & New Zealand
ROBSON ~ Hedden on the Wall Northumberland
SMITH ~ Wales & Somerset
JENKINS & DAVIES ~ Wales
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Re: THOMAS HART [locksmith] & EVE GREEN
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 September 05 21:25 BST (UK) »

 Grin
Hi there, I am descended from the MALEs and could not believe my eyes when I say Betsy Jane MALE's name on here with Thomas ALbert HART! I have looked for descendants of the HARTs for a while and gave up hope. 

Besty Jane MALE is my great grandfather's sister.  He was Joseph Benjamin MALE (both were children of Thomas MALE and Mary Ann COX).   

Thomas HART married Eve GREEN and:
Thomas Albert HART bap 12 April 1874 Edge Hill, Lancashire m. Bess (Betsy Jane) MALE 13 March 1897 Wednesfield, Wolverhampton: had 2 children

Arthur Edward HART b 1881 Liverpool, alive 1901 Wolverhampton

Lucy HART born 1883 Edge Hill, Lancashire: I had no further info on her except 1891 Wednesfield

Lilian E HART: same info as you

Lydia HART: did not have birth date just year

Reuben HART: bap 11 Jan 1893 - did not know about daughter

Nellie HART: bap 16 Mar 1898 no further info

so, while I'm not a descendant, I am a 'cousin' through Besty Jane (BESS) MALE and Thomas ALbert.   Do you know what became of their children?  I have tried to find out.  They were: Annie Alberta HART bap 16 Mar 1898 Wednesfield; Married Thomas AMBROSE 19 Apr 1924 at Holy Trinity, Heath Town.  Don't know if they had children or not: would love to!   Albert Edward HART bap 6 Feb 1901 Wednesfield: no further info. 

Thomas Albert HART senior and Betsy Jane MALE are buried in Heath Town: I have a photo of the grave if you want it?   Thomas Albert died aged 76 May 28 1953. Buried at Holy Trinity, Heath Town, WOlverhampton.  Betsy died 23 June 1932. 

Now, going back to Thomas marrying Eve GREEN:
Thomas HART born c1849 was the son of
Thomas HART born c1801 Wolverhampton and Emma born c1819 Wolverhampton:

1861: Union Street, W'ton
Thomas HART Head 60 locksmith b. W'ton; Emma wife 42 b. W'ton; Thomas son 12; Sarah daur 14; Alfred JARVIS boarder 2 b. W'ton.

1871: 25 Union Street, Wolverhampton
Thomas HART Head 70 locksmith; Emma wife 52; John PAGE boarder 27 puddler; Sarah wife 25; Thomas PAGE boarder 21; Sarah A PAGE granddaur 3. ALfred JARVIS lodger 12.

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Re: THOMAS HART [locksmith] & EVE GREEN
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 September 05 21:53 BST (UK) »

Just looked on 1861:

27 Moore? Street, Wolverhampton
Lydia GREEN mar 38 b. Armitage
Eve GREEN daur 13 servant b. Armitage
Lucy GREEN daur 11 scholar b. do
Adam GREEN son 7 scholar b. do
Emma GREEN daur 5 scholar b. do
Horatio BECK? boarder unm 20 shearer irop works b. Wolverhampton
James CATHROW? boarder unm 38 miner b. South Wales

No sign of husband!  Maybe he's in hospital or she's widowed and not stated it, as she has in 1871:

1871: Bradley's Building, Union St, West Bromwich South West,
Lydia GREEN Head widow 47 charwoman b. Armitage
Adam GREEN son 17 Forge Labourer b. do
Samuel F or J? GREEN son 2 b. do
Mary MILLS mother widow 75 Labourer's widow b. Wolverhampton

back to 1861:
1861: Durham Ox?, Tipton,
Mary MILLS Head widow 66 Seamstress b. Wolverhampton
John MILLS son unm 24 Iron Turner b. Bilston

Hope that is of some use

Lou
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Re: THOMAS HART [locksmith] & EVE GREEN
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 September 05 16:01 BST (UK) »

Could this be your Eve? From the IGI:

Eva Eugenia Green 
  Female     
   
Event(s):
Birth: 
Christening:  17 JUN 1855   Reddall-Hill, , Stafford, England

Parents:
  Father:  Richard Green   
  Mother:  Addaih     
     
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Sharp.. Colclough.. Allen.. Leach.. Bromley.. Rawlinson.. Ridgway.. Locker.. Pott.. Burton.. Hartshorne.. Renshaw.. Steele.. Wattison.. Dawes.. Spode.. Hurlstone or Earlstone.. Hill or Warren Hill.. Adams.. Poole.. Wheat.. Griffin.. Machin.. Jones.. Worsdale.. Baggott.. Plant.. Bennett.. Mansfield.. Challinor.. Lear.. Loud.. Passmore(Sedgley).. Bradley(Lower Gornall/Northumberland)..

All Stoke on Trent unless stated otherwise.
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Re: THOMAS HART [locksmith] & EVE GREEN
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 September 05 19:34 BST (UK) »

I'm not sure that is her, looking at the other baptisms to this couple.  Also, Redall-Hill is near Smethwick/ Cradley, which are not near to Armitage.  Thank you for the lookup: your time is appreciated.  I may be wrong, but!  Cheers
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