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George Marnoch Scott/Shand
« on: Tuesday 20 September 05 16:33 BST (UK) »

My nana had a 1/2 brother that I'd like to find out more about.

He was born as George Marnoch Scott to Mary Scott (domestic servant) on 24th May 1904 at Gourdas, Fyvie - no fathers name on certificate.

Now Mary married John Jaffray Shand in 1905 and he adopted George so he became George Shand.  Is there anywhere I could find an adoption certificate or any details of this name change?

My mum remembers bits about her 1/2 uncle.... he had 2 sons (she doesn't remember their names) and a daughter she thinks was called Mary (thinks Mary was disabled).  They farmed at Potarch (Kincardine O'Neill) then sold the farm and lived in Kincardine O'Neill.

Any help much appreciated.
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Lindsay
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Re: George Marnoch Scott/Shand
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 September 05 21:42 BST (UK) »

Hi LindsayG,
I am only having a stab in the dark here, so keep that in mind. Huh

But, depending on where you live.....
on this wonderful site, National Archives Scotland.

http://www.dswebhosting.info/nas/
click on search.and if you put in
Aberdeen Sheriff Court.
 that's all......and click search down the bottom.......
when the page opens up...........
under ...ordinary court.
there are ....adoption records, for Aberdeen.
this is under
 SC1 234 but you will have to go there.
So if you can go to Edinburgh, or, go to Aberdeen.
you might just be lucky that you fit just out of the 100year, privacy time. 1906 onwards.
Or you could send an email, direct to the Aberdeen city archives
archives@legal.aberdeen.net.uk
But there may be a better, way of doing this.
regards,
kenjo Cheesy
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Re: George Marnoch Scott/Shand
« Reply #2 on: Friday 23 September 05 13:30 BST (UK) »

Lindsay, here's what GROS have to say about Adoption. 

"Adopted children register (from 1930). The Registrar General keeps a register of persons adopted under orders made by Scottish courts. There are no entries relating to persons born before October 1909."

I didn't think anyone but the person adopted had right of access to Adoption Records, but could be wrong.   Might be an idea to contact GROS.

http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/

Kenjo could well be right about the National Archives, so might also be advantageous to contact them. 

Dorothy

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Re: George Marnoch Scott/Shand
« Reply #3 on: Friday 23 September 05 13:47 BST (UK) »

Lindsay

As inferred in other replies, there was no formal legal procedure required in Scotland for adoption, until the The Adoption of Children (Scotland) Act, 1930, introduced legal adoption into Scotland from that year.

In 1905, therefore, it was almost certainly a purely informal adoption, with the parents deciding to change the child's surname.  There is most unlikely to be any court record.

Even if there had been, as stated above, only the adopted child had the right to see the original birth register entry and the associated sheriff court records; altho' it is possible for authority to be given to third party for this to be done on their behalf.

In this case, it would be interesting to see what name was used for George on his marriage and death records, just in case the name of his birth father is shown.

If the 1905 certificate is an original, then it's worth having a look at the original birth register entry in Edinburgh just in case there is a reference to an entry in the Register of Corrected entries, which was the method of adding the father's name after a paternity action. In other words, this would not have been shown on the certificate issued at the time of registration.

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