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Mary Ann Macfarlane
« on: Tuesday 20 September 05 20:23 BST (UK) »

Where have they gone!!

My G Grandmother was married to William Macfarlane and they lived in Arbroath, Forfar.  Her maiden name is Crockett

William died young at the age of 38 leaving Mary with 4 children aged from 10, 7, 6 and 4 at the time of his death in 1883.

William's brother John was mentioned on the death cert.

I have now lost them all, no mention of John, Mary or the children anywhere.  I next find my Grandmother in Glasgow when she married William Peter Sinclair.

I have thought of the Poor House, but as have only just started out on this, dont know how to find where they might have gone.

Any ideas?
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Re: Mary Ann Macfarlane
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 September 05 20:36 BST (UK) »

Hi AniMac,
Have you got the death of Mary?
That might give you another clue to where the kids are, or, do the kids have a strange first name to try and trace their marriages, or deaths, Cheesy
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Re: Mary Ann Macfarlane
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 September 05 16:58 BST (UK) »

Hy AniMac, what year did Mary marry William Sinclair? If it's not long after she was widowed then she would most likely have had the children with her. Have you tried looking for a marriage certificate for any of them, I would and use an average age of 18 to 30. Have you tried looking on the 1891 and 1901 census for any of them? Try death certificates, it's all a bit of a wild card but worth a try.Here's the web address of the poor house for arbroath, maybe you can find a link that would enable you to further your research.
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/Arbroath/Arbroath.shtmlI would look at the previous options first.
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MIDLOTHIAN NAMES: BLAIR, CROMBIE,  FAIRNIE, GREENLEES, LATTA, PEAT, SNEDDON/SNADDON.
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Re: Mary Ann Macfarlane
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 September 05 02:41 BST (UK) »

Hi,
Firstly, I think you must have the wrong death date for William McFarlane.
anyway........

I have found you Ggrandmother's death.
6/12/1941, living at Langtree Ave, Whitecraigs.
she was the Widow of William McFarlane, a Comercial Traveller.
her father was David Crockatt, and mother Susan Gunn.
the informant was her daughter Mary Mc Farlane.

these are the children of  David Crockett and Susan Gunn.
for:  British Isles
Father: David Crockett, Mother: Susan Gunn

ISOBEL CROCKET Birth: 16 NOV 1858 Saint Vigeans, Angus, Scotland
 
MARY ANN CROCKATT Birth: 15 FEB 1861 Saint Vigeans, Angus, Scotland  

JAMES GUNN CROCKATT Birth: 13 JAN 1863 Saint Vigeans, Angus, Scotland
 
DAVID WALKER CROCKATT Birth: 13 NOV 1865 Saint Vigeans, Angus, Scotland

DANIEL GUNN CROCKATTBirth: 31 JAN 1868 Arbroath, Angus, Scotland
 
HARRIET GUNN CROCKATT Birth: 16 FEB 1870 Arbroath, Angus, Scotland
 
 
WILLIAM CROCKATT  Birth: 02 JAN 1873 Arbroath, Angus, Scotland
 
 
 


1881C
Dwelling:   No 20 Millgate
   Census Place:   Arbroath, Forfar, Scotland
   Source:   FHL Film 0203473     GRO Ref    Volume 272    EnumDist 6    Page 7
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
David CROCKATT   M   45    M   Alyth, Perth, Scotland
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Spirit Mercht
Susan CROCKATT   M   43    F   St Vigeans, Forfar, Scotland
   Rel:   Wife
Isobella CROCKATT   U   22    F   St Vigeans, Forfar, Scotland
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Barmaid
Mary Ann CROCKATT   U   20    F   St Vigeans, Forfar, Scotland
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Barmaid
James G. CROCKATT   U   18    M   St Vigeans, Forfar, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   App Mechanic
David W. CROCKATT   U   15    M   St Vigeans, Forfar, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   App House Joiner
Daniel G. CROCKATT       13    M   Arbroath, Forfar, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
Harriet G. CROCKATT       11    F   Arbroath, Forfar, Scotland
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Scholar
William CROCKATT       8    M   Arbroath, Forfar, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
Alexander F. CROCKATT       5    M   Arbroath, Forfar, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
Jane CROCKATT       3    F   Arbroath, Forfar, Scotland
   Rel:   Daur
Charles S. CROCKATT       10 m   M   Arbroath, Forfar, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
Alexander MC LAREN       32    M   Blairathole, Perth, Scotland
   Rel:   Visitor
   Occ:   Flax Spinner Coml Clerk


So, I hope, this is of help to you.
kenjo

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 GEN10,
 I got caught at first too, It wasn't Mary that married William Sinclair, it was one of the 4 children
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Re: Mary Ann Macfarlane
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 September 05 16:03 BST (UK) »

Hya Kenjo, totally lost! Who is the Mary that is mentioned? Is she the one who was maried to William Macfarlane? If so then who is the other Mary?  Huh
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Re: Mary Ann Macfarlane
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 September 05 18:41 BST (UK) »

Hi Kenjo and GEN10

Thank you both SO much for this info.  Just to clear the confusion! (my fault)

William Macfarlane
(not MacF or McF) was born abt 1855.  He was a Commercial Traveller and died (found dead !) on 7/3/1893
Married Mary Ann Crockett - 12/4/1882 - 20 Mill Gate. Arbroath, Forfar (got that from a Cert)

They had 4 children:-
Margaret Crawford Macfarlane - My Grandmother - born 28/4/1883 Kefety Street, St Vigeans
Mary Macfarlane born abt 1886
Annie ? M Macfarlane born abt 1887
William Macfarlane born abt 1889

I still have work to do on the children.

My problem was/is I lost the family after William (senior) died which was 3 years after son William was born.  As his brother John was the witness on the death cert. I am assuming they may have gone to live with him, BUT can't find John, Mary Ann or rest of children.

Have searched for all of them on the 1901 census but nothing. So though perhaps they went to a poor house.

The next time I locate Grandmother was when she married in Glasgow and on the Cert is supposed to have lived at 22 Armetta??!! St, Glasgow

I must learn to put my questions more clearly (only just started doing this!!) and realise when each family repeats the Christian name it gets confusing.  Wern't very innovative in those days were they!

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Re: Mary Ann Macfarlane
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 22 September 05 19:13 BST (UK) »

AniMac

but was it one of the 4 children that got married  to the Sinclair?
and did you already have Mary Ann's death?
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Re: Mary Ann Macfarlane
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 22 September 05 19:23 BST (UK) »

No did not have Mary Ann's death.

Yes her daughter Maragret Crawford married William Sinclair, and from there my father was William Douglas Sinclair.

Am adding all your lovely info into the data base now - slowly!

Thanks
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