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Topic: Christina Barr - HELP (Read 864 times)
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Carawa
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Hi
I have a problem with Christina Barr. All we know is that she married James Duff 4 July 1873 at Cumbraes. From her age she appears to have been born c 1850-51 and her parents are lsited as William Duff and Elizabeth Littlejohn (or Elizabeth Gray) but I can find no record of them or where Christina was born. I have not even been able to trace her in the 1871 census.
Christina and James emigrated to New Zealand around 1874.
Can anyone help fill the gaps???
Carawa 
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« Last Edit: Thursday 03 November 05 05:49 GMT (UK) by Carawa »
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Begbie, March East Lothian, Scotland
Taylor, Bain, Templeton, Lanark, Scotland
Mitchell, Parker, Morton Ayr Scotlandwilson, McKie, Millhench Wigtownshire Scotland
Alderdice, Gordon Northern Ireland
Millhench, McKie Bolton, England
Boxall, Parkes, Hugglestone, Smith London, England
Parks, Longueville Channel Islands
Marshall Devon, England
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Carawa
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Hi Joe
thanks for this. the latest thought (from the census) is that Christina was born in Partick in Lanarkshire but nothing is confirmed yet so I am grateful for all possibilities.
thanks again
Carawa
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Begbie, March East Lothian, Scotland
Taylor, Bain, Templeton, Lanark, Scotland
Mitchell, Parker, Morton Ayr Scotlandwilson, McKie, Millhench Wigtownshire Scotland
Alderdice, Gordon Northern Ireland
Millhench, McKie Bolton, England
Boxall, Parkes, Hugglestone, Smith London, England
Parks, Longueville Channel Islands
Marshall Devon, England
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Carawa
Apart from the entries that show on IGI as posted by Joe, there is this family showing in the 1861 census and as you say this Christina shows as born in Partick:
Willm Barr 53, Tinsmith & Gasfetter, b. Kilbarchan, Renfrew
Elizath Barr 48, b. Banff
Willm Barr 25, Tinsmith & Gasfetter, b. Greenock
Helen Barr 13, b. Partick
Elizth Barr 11, b. Partick
Christina Barr 9, b. Partick
Address: 17 Cathcart Street, Greenock
Probably a good way forward would be to establish what father William's occupation was from Christina and James Duff's marriage cert. in 1873. Have you viewed the image for confirmation?
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Carawa
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Hi Monica
I am pretty sure that this is the right family as the occupation of William is the same as on Christina's marriage certificate. I have been unable to locate either Christina's birth or William and Elizabeth's marriage. Perhaps they weren't recorded. We have had two different names for Christina's mother. her marriage certificate says Elizabeth Littlejohn but else where we have Elizabeth Gray and this Gray name was carried down for one of Christina's children so who knows?
Regards
Carawa
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Begbie, March East Lothian, Scotland
Taylor, Bain, Templeton, Lanark, Scotland
Mitchell, Parker, Morton Ayr Scotlandwilson, McKie, Millhench Wigtownshire Scotland
Alderdice, Gordon Northern Ireland
Millhench, McKie Bolton, England
Boxall, Parkes, Hugglestone, Smith London, England
Parks, Longueville Channel Islands
Marshall Devon, England
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MonicaLesl
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Carawa
These are the census entries for William and Elizabeth in case you don't have them:
1841:
William Barr 33, tinsmith
Elizabeth Barr 29, b. outside the county
William Barr 6
Christina Barr 4
James Barr 2
Address: East Shaw St, Greenock West, Renfrewshire
1851:
William Barr 43, Tinsmith & Garfitter (master), b. Kilbarchan, Renfrew
Elizabeth Barr 39, b. Banff
William Barr 15, b. Greenock
George Barr 9, b. Greenock
Thomas Barr 5, b. Partick
Helen Barr 3, b. Partick
Elizabeth Barr 1, b. Partick
James Pickerel 41, lodger
John Smith 31, lodger
Address: Dumbarton Road Kidston's Lands, Partick Lanarkshire
1871:
Possible for Christina:
Christina Barr 19, domestic servant, b. Partick
Barbara Cameron 28, wife, b. Perth
Kenneth Cameron 48, grocer, b. Inverness
Address: 11 Antigua Street, Greenock East
And parents:
Elizabeth Barr 6(5?)9, b. Banff
William Barr 63, tinsmith, b. Kilbarchan
Address: 8 E B K Hall St, Greenock East
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Carawa
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Hi
Thanks for your help. have found William Barr's death certificate and his parents were Robert Barr and Helen Thomson. So I now have his birth as well. What wonderful people you are. Now I need to work on Elizabeth Barr nee Gray and get her death certificate to try and track her parents.
Thanks again everyone
Carawa
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Begbie, March East Lothian, Scotland
Taylor, Bain, Templeton, Lanark, Scotland
Mitchell, Parker, Morton Ayr Scotlandwilson, McKie, Millhench Wigtownshire Scotland
Alderdice, Gordon Northern Ireland
Millhench, McKie Bolton, England
Boxall, Parkes, Hugglestone, Smith London, England
Parks, Longueville Channel Islands
Marshall Devon, England
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MonicaLesl
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Carawa
I would consider the possibility that mother Elizabeth may also have left for NZ with daughter Christina and new family. With William Barr's death in 1876, maybe they all emigrated. Cannot find a likely death for Elizabeth as yet...let me know if you do! There is no entry for an El* Barr born Banff any age on the SP 1881 Census index.
Regards.
Monica
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