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nigels
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1705 : Dots replacing mother
« on: Friday 23 September 05 16:01 UTC (UK) »

looking at the birth below and the parish register has dots for the mother ? any idea why dots would be used.
 
1705 Birth Matthew Son of Matthew Seamark and ……….

[the parish register has dots no name, taken as Elizabeth based on the 1704 Sibbertoft Marriage, Matthew parish is given as Old. ].
 
A Matthew and Elizabeth [Old] had another child some eight years later Ambrose. Ambrose  was apprenticed at the age of 2 to the village of Desborough.
 
[Overseers payments started to be paid to an unknown Edward for Seamark boy in 1714, Matthew Snr received a payment in 1813 for thatching].
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Re: 1705 : Dots replacing mother
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 September 05 16:19 UTC (UK) »

A lot of older register entries only give the father's name, but the dots here imply that the mother's name should have been given too.

I've come across a couple of cases in old registers where the vicar has left a blank for the child's name, and my best guess was that he wrote the register up late, and couldn't remember!  Maybe that's what happened here?

One of the least helpful baptismal records I ever came across (in Switzerland) read simply "Baptised a daughter of the elder Huguenin".... Roll Eyes

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Re: 1705 : Dots replacing mother
« Reply #2 on: Friday 23 September 05 17:44 UTC (UK) »

Are you looking at the original parish register or a transcription?  If it is a transcription it is very likely that the original contains the mothers name but the person traanscribing it could not read the name.  In that case it is worth looking at other sources like the IGI where someone else may have attempted to read it. 

I had one case in my family where the surname of the wife in a marriage was recorded significantly differently in three different secondary records.  Eventually I obtained a copy of the original register entry and of the Banns and as a result i was none the wiser. 
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Re: 1705 : Dots replacing mother
« Reply #3 on: Friday 23 September 05 18:08 UTC (UK) »

actual parish book at the northants records office not a third party or bishops transcript
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