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Swally
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John Smith Allan of Scotland
« on: Friday 23 September 05 17:19 BST (UK) »
Hi guys,

I am trying to locate a great uncle of mine and wonder if anyone can help me.
His name was John Smith Allan born to Robert & Elsie (Elspet, Elspeth, Elizabeth) nee,Gordon Allan.
He was born Aberdeen 1891 and brought up in Aberdeen Scotland.  After the Census of 1901 I can find no further trace of him.
He did not die in Scotland right Upton 1954, I can find no marriage for him in Scotland up to 1926.
I can find no trace of him in the Commonwealth War Graves, there is only one John Smith Allan with the British Army but he is not my man.
His elder sister and two other brothers emigrated to America and Canada but the elusive John Smith Allan is still missing.
If itchy feet is something in the family could he have went to Oz?

Could any kind person have a look in and try and locate him for me.
Out of his brothers and sisters he is the only one I don't have a lead on.

Thanks,

Swally
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Re: John Smith Allan of Scotland
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 September 05 23:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Swally,

I had a look in the New South Wales BDM index for a marriage for John, there were five results for John S. Allan:

6174/1914  ALLAN  JOHN S  THOMPSON  MARY E  PETERSHAM
10996/1921  ALLAN  JOHN S  CUPITT  OLIVE M  PETERSHAM 
8987/1925  ALLAN  JOHN S  GREY  PHYLLIS H  KIAMA 
2927/1927  ALLAN  JOHN S  MORRIS  LENA  CASINO 
15055/1927  ALLAN  JOHN S  WATERS  IVY M  SYDNEY

If you want to check any of these records, you can obtain a transcript (cheaper than a certificate) from NSW record agent, Marilyn Rowan:

http://www.marbract.com.au

She charges a smaller fee for confirmation of details, ie. the right parents, etc.

There were 56 results for "John Allan" in Victorian marriages from 1916 to 1942 (no results for "John S Allan" or "John Smith Allan").  You can research this yourself via the Victorian Registry's website:

http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/CA256C7100199CBE/OrigDoc/~1542E3A9C6B6BE3DCA256C72001CAE6E?OpenDocument&1=13-Index+Search~&2=10-Index+Categories~&3=~

Searching is free but it costs AUS$0.99 per page to view any results.

There were no results for John Allan, with father given as Robert, in the Victorian death index to 1985.  There were 118 results when searched without a father's name.

If you'd like a search done in Queensland, contact the Queensland Family History Society at:

http://www.qfhs.org.au/e-research.htm

They have BDM indexes, cemetery records, electoral rolls, etc.  Fee for their service is by donation.

Have you ruled out the two John Allans listed on the Ellis Island website?  Neither are listed as coming to New York directly from Aberdeen:

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/matchMore.asp?MID=02805987670192365504&FNM=JOHN&LNM=ALLAN&PLNM=ALLAN&CGD=M&bSYR=1891&bEYR=1891&first_kind=1&kind=exact&offset=0&dwpdone=1

I hope you track him down.

Regards, Brisgirl
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Re: John Smith Allan of Scotland
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 24 September 05 10:22 BST (UK) »
Brilliant,

it appears only as recently as last night that brothers and sister of John (Jock) Smith Allan who we knew has emigrated to Barre, Vermont, America their grandchildren have got in contact.  It would appear that it is possible John Smith stayed in the States but I have not ruled out that he went to Australia after.

Many thanks for your efforts,

Swally
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