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Silvilocks
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I think I've found Alice on the 1901 (and she isn't mine - sob). Can somebody confirm that it's OK for us to put Alice's details on here, or would it best not to for now in case any living children are upset by it? If anyone wants the census ref. until this is confirmed then I will send it by PM - Zoe, will send it to you now, in case you're still hunting for it.
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Added: I've now used up the credits that I had - I've searched to the end of 1926 for any siblings of Kenneth's, with no luck. Of course it's possible that his mother died soon after he was born and that his father remarried and moved.
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Silvilocks
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Alice in 1901:
Alice Ives abt 1896 Bromley, London, England Daughter
Annie Ives abt 1894 Bromley, London, England Daughter
Eleanor Ives abt 1892 Bromley, London, England Daughter
Frederick Ives abt 1890 Bromley, London, England Son
Michael Ives abt 1859 Kirby Cane, Norfolk, England Head
Rosa Ives abt 1860 Parham, Suffolk, England Wife
Rosa Ives abt 1888 Kings Cross, London, England Daughter
Bromley, London
RG13/350 Folio 36
Page 12
Checked with Sarah who thinks the following is OK to post - if there's a problem, could a mod please edit as necessary. Re Peter Sharman - none of the birth's that Zoe found look right for him, and I've just realized how the date's work out. Peter was born in 1921/22 but his father didn't divorce his wife until 1928. Would the child of an unmarried couple be registered in the father's name at that time, or should we be looking for Peter Gabrielson?
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jorose
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I've found children of unmarried couples under either mother's name or father's name. If he was still married at the time, it would be likely that he'd be found as Gabrielson (or Gabrielsen - I think Elena appears on the 1901 as Caroline Gabrielsen, has two sisters and a brother Morris, who died in WWI).
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samesizedfeet
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just about to start lunch break so I'll look again for him under Gabrielson as I munch.
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samesizedfeet
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yaaaaaaaaaaaay - got him
1922 Sep Q
Peter S S Gabrielson
Ref: ************
S S = Siegfried Sharman??
the only other Gabrielsons in the little bit I searched (1921S - 1922S) were in W Derby - so same rough area
Moderator Comment: Any births less than 100 years ago = Discretion, please !
sorry - so excited I wasnt thinking.
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samesizedfeet
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okay - I'm flustered - any guidance as to which way to go next?
A) Do I look for any possible births for Sharmans from the 1st marriage? (considering the history we can't be sure they'll even be half siblings)
B) Do I look for other Gabrielson births with unmarried mothers?
C) Do I look for a marriage between Peters mother and father after 1928? (this would narrow down what surname we'd be looking for siblings under)
D) All of the above
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samesizedfeet
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no Sharman/Gabrielson marriages between 1928 and 1935 so he didnt seem overly keen to be sealing his love witha kiss
will concentrate on Gabrielson births for now starting after birth of Peter
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jorose
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Note: according to another article about this in the Birmingham Post, Jose Moss lived in Green Lane, Coventry, and remarried to a Johnston. (It also has the contact for Sue, so the RAF already know this information).
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samesizedfeet
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first possible sibling for PETER SHARMAN (from hunting for Gabrielson births with maiden name Gabrielson)
Carol born **** - same geographical area
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Arranroots
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When talking to the RAF lady it might be as well to check what they have tried to contact the living rellies.
There are pages on Ceefax, for example, or maybe we could find out what school they attended and old friends or neighbours might know of the family?
have the BBC tried broadcasting? I live not far from one of the families, but haven't heard anything despite having the radio on local station all day long.
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK) |
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. If she returns my call I will ask her if RAF can buy the certs.