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Topic: BBC: A Challenge for Rootschatters (Read 16175 times)
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Arranroots
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What a good idea Sarah!
For a start, tried searching for the death of an Ethel Mary (with or without ROBINSON) born about 1920, without finding one. (Used Ancestry)
Is she still alive?
kind regards, Arranroots 
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK) |
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Silvilocks
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Hi
I tried the CWGC site to see if any of these men were listed, and came up with the following. Not sure how much use it is, but it does throw up a wider variety of names, and something may ring a bell with somone. It may help to track down some brothers or sisters and their descendants.
John Robinson's middle name was Victor. Son of Hubert Hedley Robinson, O.B.E., Merchant Navy, Master S.S. Empire Success (London) (Died on active service, 19th February, 1945), and of C. Helen Robinson, of Wimborne Minster, Dorset; husband of Ethel M. Robinson.
Of the three other men listed, there is no record on CWGC for L E Moss. The other two are:
Kenneth Wakefield
Age 20 when killed in August 1942
Son of Albert J. and Alice J. Wakefield, of Bedford.
Peter Siegfried Sharman
Age 20 when killed in August 1942
Son of George Owen Sharman and Gabriel Sharman, of Buxton, Derbyshire.
As no details are given of the wives of these men, is it safe to assume that they were unmarried, or just that there wasn't room for more detail in the article?
I've done a quick hunt on Genes Reunited to see if any of these are entered, but nobody seems to be looking for them.
Will try another couple of ideas asap, but my boss is in the office now 
Silvilocks
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Silvilocks
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There's a Leonard Edward Moss on Genes Reunited born 1914 which would be right. No place of birth given though. I let my membership lapse, so I can't can't contact the member. Is anyone else able to?
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Watermusic
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I am a member and will contact "Judith"
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Apsey - Devon, Dorset Edmunds/Edmonds - Monmouth Ellott/Ellet/Elliot - Dorset Fry - Devon, Dorset, Somerset Hill - Dorset, Somerset Mabb - Dorset Matthews - Hants Richards - Dorset, Somerset Webster - Lambeth, Norfolk Others: - Backaller(and variations), Billows, Bunnett, Crabb, Dening, Lea, Mitchell, Parris, Wilson, Woodward. Main areas:- Chardstock, Bridport My family members are on http://fryandhill.rootschat.net |
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Watermusic
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Found a John Robinson - Kent 1917 there too, so messaged them as well.
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Apsey - Devon, Dorset Edmunds/Edmonds - Monmouth Ellott/Ellet/Elliot - Dorset Fry - Devon, Dorset, Somerset Hill - Dorset, Somerset Mabb - Dorset Matthews - Hants Richards - Dorset, Somerset Webster - Lambeth, Norfolk Others: - Backaller(and variations), Billows, Bunnett, Crabb, Dening, Lea, Mitchell, Parris, Wilson, Woodward. Main areas:- Chardstock, Bridport My family members are on http://fryandhill.rootschat.net |
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Silvilocks
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What a good idea Sarah! For a start, tried searching for the death of an Ethel Mary (with or without ROBINSON) born about 1920, without finding one. (Used Ancestry) Is she still alive? kind regards, Arranroots
Ancestry seems to be throwing a hissy fit at present, and entering a year on some searches means it keeps saying no matches are found. Searching deaths 1984-2002 for Ethel Mary Robinson without any further info gives 21 results, three of which look like possibles from the date of birth given. Searching just for "Ethel Mary" gives 5885 results, so I'm NOT going to play. Hopefully Ancestry will sort this out pretty quickly.
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I've just spoken to Sue Raftree, the RAF spokeswoman for this to see if there was any further information available. She's confirmed that both Kenenth Wakefield and Peter Sharman were unmarried. The only information is their place of birth as given in the article, and they were both born in 1922. They don't have any further information on Leonard Moss, except his wife's name which is on the CWGC site.
I've told Sue about Rootschat, and explained what we're doing, so hopefully she'll be dropping by to have a look. If Watermusic gets replies to the GR messages, I've told Sue we'll pass any info on.
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I've posted this link on the Armed Forces board for our resident experts!
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK) |
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I found the following death records. there are the following Ethel Mary Robinson, some of the dates are way out but one of them may be his wife, if she didn't remarry of course.
Ethel Mary Robinson Mar 1984 19 Sep 1917 Darlington Durham
Ethel Mary Robinson Dec 1984 29 Jun 1894 Warwick and Leamington Warwickshire
Ethel Mary Robinson Oct 1985 31 Dec 1904 Chester and Ellesmere Port Cheshire
Ethel Mary Robinson Aug 1987 28 Jul 1914 Chichester West Sussex
Ethel Mary Robinson Aug 1987 10 Oct 1907 Ealing Greater London
Ethel Mary Robinson May 1988 1917 Scunthorpe and Barton-upon-Humber Humberside
Ethel Mary Robinson Jun 1988 10 Jun 1900 Bradford West Yorkshire
Ethel Mary Robinson Jan 1988 22 Aug 1912 Yeovil Somerset
Ethel Mary Robinson May 1989 26 May 1908 Birkenhead Merseyside
Ethel Mary Robinson Sep 1989 24 May 1907 Gainsborough Lincolnshire
Ethel Mary Robinson Jun 1989 28 May 1897 East Dereham Norfolk
Ethel Mary Robinson Feb 1989 4 May 1926 Aylesbury Vale Buckinghamshire
Ethel Mary Robinson Jun 1989 3 Nov 1896 Waveney Suffolk
Ethel Mary Robinson May 1991 29 Nov 1900 Ewecross North Yorkshire
Ethel Mary Robinson Sep 1991 26 Feb 1913 Derby Derbyshire
Ethel Mary Robinson Nov 1996 21 Sep 1920 Stoke on Trent Staffordshire
Mary Ethel Robinson Apr 1984 1 Aug 1901 Halifax West Yorkshire
Mary Ethel Robinson Jan 1984 6 Nov 1913 Kings Lynn Norfolk
Mary Ethel Robinson Oct 1985 24 Dec 1902 Whitehaven Cumbria
Mary Ethel Robinson Mar 1993 1 Jul 1902 Poole Dorset
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jorose
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Poor Hubert Hedley seems to get his name mispelt all over the place!
I don't know how much time/money Sue Raftree/the RAF have to pursue this, but I'd say wills would be the way forward for the Robinsons at least - Hubert Hedley Robinson, OBE, I would say would be very likely to have had a will, which should list if there were any siblings of J.V. Robinson.
On the others:
The Times, Saturday, Mar 03, 1928; pg. 4; Issue 44832; col B and The Times, Wednesday, Mar 28, 1928; pg. 5; Issue 44853; col A record the divorce proceedings of George Owen Sharman and his wife Grace Evelyn Sharman, nee Rogers. They had a son and two daughters, but George was said to have committed adultery with a Elena Josephina Carolina Gabrielson ('Gabriel', the listed mother of Peter Siegfried?), and in return he accused Grace of adultery with Mr Lawrence H. Bradshaw, artist, and Mr Austin Osmond Square.
A decree nisi was granted, with the care of the two youngest children given to the father (they had been living in the same house as George and Elena for some time.)
Is this the same man? I can only find one George Owen Sharman birth on freebmd, 1871-1910, George Owen Sharman b. 1883, m. 1909 to Grace. If this is him, then I guess Peter had at least three half-siblings, and maybe some full siblings.
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