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Passenger List Help Request 1912 - 1914
« on: Sunday 25 September 05 14:10 UTC (UK) »
Hi Folks

Could someone please help with a lookup on passengers lists to US between 1912 and 1914 for Espet (or Elsie or Elizabeth or Elspeth) Allan (MS Gordon) - she would have been 52 in 1912.  She travelled to Barre in Vermont to her daughter Jane Burnett.  I have info that she was in Aberdeen, Scotland in August 1912 - other details that she went to US before outbreak of WW1 and returned to Scotland in 1919.  I have checked out Ellis Island site - no trace - but do not have access to other passenger list sites.

Thanks lots

Les
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Re: Passenger List Help Request 1912 - 1914
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 01 October 05 01:53 UTC (UK) »


Hi Les and Welcome to Rootschat!

I had a quick scan of shipping manifests for Elizabeth Allan - and there are quite a few!... Do you know her year and place of birth? and anything else that may help find her - do you have any census information about her at all ?

Be more than happy to help but we need a little more!

Annie
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Re: Passenger List Help Request 1912 - 1914
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 01 October 05 07:35 UTC (UK) »
Hi Annie

Truly grateful for your assistance - my GGrandmother Elspeth Allan(MS Gordon) born 25 Feb 1860 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire.  Her husband Robert Allan died in 1905.  I know that in August 1912 she was living at 1 Farquhar Place, Aberdeen (I got this from the passenger list of SS Numidian leaving Glasgow on that date for Ellis Island - this was the next of kin address given by her Daughter Jane Ross Gordon Burnett who was a passenger travelling to Barre, Vermont to join her Husband Henry LG Burnett - she had her two children travelling with her).  Elspeth died in Aberdeen in 1922.  I have contact with Jane Burnett's Granddaughter in US who gave me the information (confirmed from her father who is still alive) that Elspeth also came to Barre before WW1 and worked as a nurse in Barre Hospital and then returned to Scotland around 1919.  It is possible that she may had travelled to US with either or both sons John Smith Allan b1891 in Aberdeen or William Allan b1895 in Aberdeen.

Hope this may be of some help to narrow the field a bit.

Best regards

Les
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Re: Passenger List Help Request 1912 - 1914
« Reply #3 on: Monday 03 October 05 02:43 UTC (UK) »


I'm sorry Les!

I can't find her! - I've checked everything I have access to and she's not there -
when I told you I had a few - they were mostly born in England and Ireland ...!
and even checked them - just in case!! Roll Eyes

Maybe somebody else will find her - don't give up hope!!

Annie
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Re: Passenger List Help Request 1912 - 1914
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 13 October 05 02:03 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: osprey28 on Saturday 01 October 05 07:35 UTC (UK)
I got this from the passenger list of SS Numidian leaving Glasgow on that date for Ellis Island - this was the next of kin address given by her Daughter Jane Ross Gordon Burnett who was a passenger travelling to Barre, Vermont to join her Husband Henry LG Burnett - she had her two children travelling with her


Hi Les,

I had a little hunt for your Elspeth (no luck I'm afraid). But while hunting I spotted your Jane Ross Burnett on the Numidian from Glasgow. Only thing is the Numidian (with Jane on board) arrived in Boston Massachusetts, not Ellis Island (NY). The arrival date is 2 Sept 1912.

I took a look at the original image and Jane is there with children Henry and Mary
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Re: Passenger List Help Request 1912 - 1914
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 October 05 02:16 UTC (UK) »





Nice find Eillo!!

Annie Cheesy
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Re: Passenger List Help Request 1912 - 1914
« Reply #6 on: Friday 14 October 05 16:26 UTC (UK) »
Hi Ellio

Many thanks for your help - I do have a copy of the passenger manifest which shows Jane with her two children aboard the SS Numidian - it shows the port of origin but not the destination.  You have helped me by confirming it was Boston not Ellis.  Is there any way I can search online for Boston or other non Ellis arrivals? - I have not found any yet.

Thanks again

Les
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Re: Passenger List Help Request 1912 - 1914
« Reply #7 on: Friday 14 October 05 19:02 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: osprey28 on Friday 14 October 05 16:26 UTC (UK)
Hi Ellio

Many thanks for your help - I do have a copy of the passenger manifest which shows Jane with her two children aboard the SS Numidian - it shows the port of origin but not the destination.  You have helped me by confirming it was Boston not Ellis.  Is there any way I can search online for Boston or other non Ellis arrivals? - I have not found any yet.

Thanks again

Les



Hi Les

There are scattered ships passenger lists online on several free sites - the top two being ISTG at http://immigrantships.net, the second being Olive Tree at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/

Of course the most complete is Ancestry's online ships lists for lots of different ports of arrival in USA. That is where I found your passenger list to Boston.

You can also search offline, using microfilmed indexes. You can order films in to a nearby Family History Centre, or have NARA do the job (once you have precise details)

you can get a list of film numbers (NARA & FHC) at
http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nara_indexbyport.shtml

Scroll down to the state you want and click on the link, then find the film # you need

The staff of the National Archives will undertake a search of the original records for a fee or you can order films in to a FHC if you have one nearby

New York databases can be searched at http://www.stevemorse.org/ for certain years.

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KENT: Fuller, Simpson, Stead, Caspall, Norris, Philpott, Elvery
DEVON: Williams, Caspall
SUSSEX: Simpson
YORKSHIRE: Dewhirst/Dewhurst, Wormald, Hill, Schulze
CANADA: McGinnis, Peer, Vollick and more

Websites: AllEnglishRecords.com
AllCensusRecords.com
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Re: Passenger List Help Request 1912 - 1914
« Reply #8 on: Monday 17 October 05 16:52 UTC (UK) »
Hi Eillo

Thanks lots for your very helpful advice - gives me lots to work on now.  You are a star !!

Best regards

Les
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