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Topic: Piper/ Pyper Family Rathkeale and descendents (Read 1316 times)
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Christopher
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1939 - 2009
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Hello all,
I am researching the name Piper for friends who asked me to do so on their behalf. I will endeavour to keep this in chronological order so will mention the earliest date that each site contains in the hope that it will be easy for other researchers to follow. Some sites may be mentioned more than once this enables one to find each Piper on that site -
German Palatinate surnames
In the eighteenth century there was migration to Ireland from the Palatinate of the Rhine in Germany. These German refugees settled principally in Limerick around 1709, and their seperate culture remained intact up until the early 1900s. Palatinate surnames to be found in and around: Court, Matrix, Ballingran, Killiheen, and Adare in Limerick were: Baker, Bovanizer, Bowen, Doube, Delmege, Gillard, Latchford, Ligier, Millar, Lodwig, Modlar, Pyper, Reynard, Ruttle, Shire, Stark, and Switzer.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishancestors/Surnames/Groups.html
An Account of the Palatine's Settlement in Ireland in the 18th Century
www.users.bigpond.com/olavemil/ambassador.htm
A Family from Court Matrix near Rathkeale (mention of Catherine Piper)
1709 www.geocities.com/judydrysdale/stories5.html Broken Link
Peter PIPER m 1749 Elizabeth BOVENHIZER
1749 http://users.ncable.net.au/~jburrell/gen/shumack/bovenhizer.html
LDS Extracts from Rathkeale Parish Church Records
1754 Elizabeth Piper married John Ruckle
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/IRL-PALATINE/2000-11/0975513372 -
1755 John Pyper married Catherine Rynard
www.switzerfamily.org/irish_canadian.htm
1762 http://genealogy.dubery.com/Rathkeale_M1.htm
LDS Extracts from Rathkeale Parish Church Records
1766 Jacob Piper married Ann Dollmage (Jacob of the parish of Kilscannell)
1766 http://genealogy.dubery.com/Rathkeale_M1.htm
1766 Elizabeth Piper married Adam Dulmage (Elizabeth of Kilscannell parish) www.ststp.com/Archives/Genealogy/Trimble/delmege.txt
1769 Charles Piper christened 12th March. Parents Jacob Piper & Ann
LDS Extracts from Rathkeale Parish Church Records
1769 http://genealogy.dubery.com/rathkeale_b2.htm
1771 Catherine Piper christened 23rd June. Parents Jacob Piper & Ann
LDS Extracts Births 1771-1790 from Rathkeale Parish Church Records
1771 http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/apollonius/Genealogy/rathkeale_b3.htm
1771 Catherine Piper married Daniel Shoemaker
http://users.ncable.net.au/~jburrell/gen/shumack/sch_pip.html
1774 Mary Piper christened 13th November. Parents Peter Piper & Ann
http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/apollonius/Genealogy/rathkeale_b3.htm
1783 John Piper married Elizabeth Corneill
http://homepage.mac.com/ric79/Fam.tree/Corneil/FamHist/RR01/RR01_005.HTML
1790 Sarah Piper married Michael Burke on 22nd Feb at Rathkeale
http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?Ireland::piper::1724.html
1801 PIPER. Erecd by Jacob Piper in memy of his son Jacob who depd ys life Jany 21st 1801 Aged 21 years Also his daughter Margt who depd Marh after aged 38 The Lord gave and the Lord taketh away....
Monumental Inscriptions Church of Ireland Parish Graveyard at Rathkeale http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~joanne/monumental_inscriptions.html
1848-64 Pipers in Limerick as shown in Griffith's Valuation of Ireland
http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php (enter name Piper in table)
1853 Griffiths Valuation Limerick
3 x John Piper, Kilcheen, Kilscannell
John Piper, Ardgoul North, Nantinan
3 x Rola Piper, Tuogh, Adare
3 x James Piper, Tuogh, Adare
http://www.failteromhat.com/limerick.htm
This last site contains photographs of buildings in Rathkeale with Palatine connections http://www.alternative-education.org/photos.html
Christopher
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Christopher
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1939 - 2009
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Jacob Pyper's parents were Julius Pyper and Catherine (nee Alton).
They had five children including Jacob, Dora, Esther, James and Julius.
Jacob Pyper moved from Co. Limerick to Ballykinlar, Co. Down in the north of Ireland before World War I to join the British army. His sister and brother moved north with him. Republicans and the IRA squatted in the family farm they left behind them. The family fought to get the value of the farm for many years and finally about 1980 the Irish Government paid them the value of their Co. Limerick farm.
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Christopher
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Posts: 10243
1939 - 2009
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Good Morning All,
I spotted this phrase Please submit any of your Piper research interests - UK only. You might find some distant cousins http://www.cpiper.freeserve.co.uk/index.htm The Piper Genealogy is included in One Name Studies Sites with BMD indexes, Census or Parish Records On-line www.ukbmd.org.uk/index.php?form_action=ons
I did some more searching and discovered that of 800 Palatine families in Ireland in 1710 by the year 1712 that number of families had been reduced to 263. www.teskey.org/tskomnibus.html Of the families that left Ireland, some returned to their homeland, some to England and the rest emigrated to America. In view of this I feel restricting a search to " UK Only " lessens the chances of people finding some of those distant cousins and under the circumstances I sent the following to Glenn Piper.
Good Morning Glenn,
Would you think for a minute and clarify this comment which I found on your web site please -Please submit any of your Piper research interests-UK only.You might find some distant cousins I regret I have some difficulty understanding precisely what you mean. Obviously it means something to you but to someone like myself, an Irishman living in the Province of Ulster with many English and Scots ancestors it is a totally meaningless expression. Do you require a lengthy history lesson or will you accept my word that from 1800 until 1922 the whole island of Ireland was a part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. Since 1922 to the present date the United Kingdom has consisted of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Perhaps you mean UK only and not places across the English Channel in mainland Europe.
I look forward, as I am sure people in Ireland named Piper also will look forward, to a detailed explanation
Kind regards, Christopher Peake
The following reply was received from Glenn Piper
Hello Christopher
as i am doing this as a hobby in my spare time and dont intend to upset anyone i will change it to research interests in the Piper surname Yorkshire only ,
when i get the time as my job,children etc keep me busy
thank you
Glenn Piper
researching PIPER mainly in Sheffield and South yorkshire c1600-1920
DOUBLEDAY c1800-1920 Derby and Nottingham
Also researching athletics in South Yorks c1880-1920
Many free indexes re PIPER and ATHLETICS
Sheffield newspapers available on cd/dvd in pdf format.
Free surname indexes for Sheffield Independent 1911
Over 3,000 names so far.
See www.cpiper.freeserve.co.uk
Ashton Guardian 1877-78 on cd plus index
See www.geocities.com/doubleday1901
I sent a reply to Glenn thanking him for making the necessary alteration.
I wished him luck with his research and advised him that if any Pipers with Yorkshire connections appeared in Ireland a message would be sent to him.
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sio59
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
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Hello Christopher,
From Limerick City library Local studies section www.limerickcorp.ie/Library/LocalStudies/
1885 Register of Electors-Limerick City and Environs
Piper Henry, Punch's Lane, Inhabitant Householder, house and yard, Dock Ward
1901 Census
Piper Catherine Killeheen Kilscannell Ardagh, Rathkeale
Pyper Julius Main Street Rathkeale Rathkeale
Pyper Uriah Adare Adare Adare
1911 Census
Piper Catherine Killeheen Kilscannell Ardagh, Rathkeale
Trade Directory 1769-1925
Piper Unknown Trade Registered 1913 16 Sexton Street
Piper James Unknown Trade Registered 1912 49 Nelson Street
Piper James Unknown Trade Registered 1914 16 Sexton Street
Sio
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BEVAN, Cambridge, New York
WILLINGTON, Tipperary
LYNCH, Tipperary, Dublin, New York
CARROLL, Tipperary, Limerick
CONNERY,ELLIS,GUERIN,HINCHY,HUMPHRIES,McMAHON,SHEEHY,TAYLOR,WELSH/WALSH, Limerick
CONLISK, DALY, DAVIN, FLANAGAN, Galway
BROWN, Tyrone
HANNON, MOORE, TOTTEN, Antrim
McLERNON /McALERNON, CREANEY, Antrim, Down, Armagh
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malcolmsmith
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
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Christopher,
Thanks for initiating this topic and getting some great information.
My Great-Great Grandfather was Uriah Pyper born about 1833 and died in 1902. His father was, I believe one James Piper who was a farmer in Adare in 1853. James Piper's wife was Elizabeth Delmage born about 1810. I am trying to find more information on James Piper and Elizabeth Delmage and I am also trying to tie James Piper back into the Piper's of Rathkeale.
Malcolm
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