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Bernard James Moon, business called B. Jays, Capetown
« on: Monday 26 September 05 02:11 BST (UK) »

Seeking Irene Moon is England, don't know if she ever married (and where her mother Edith is buried in England)

her father was BERNARD JAMES MOON born 19 Dec 1884 in St. Leonard's, Sussex, England and died 16 Feb 1946 in Capetown, Eastern Cape, Maitland Cemetery #1, 17 Dorp St., Cape Town ,

her cousin was A. Nuler or Nuber ?

Bernard was a  retired commercial traveller, his busines called B. Jays, and he was burried by mr. a. montgomery, 14 sydney st., green point, episco?

SACTA members went everywhere the railway went, and by the 1920s were also travelling by car. They must have known the whole territory (especially its hotels and railway stations)from the magazine 'On the Road',

Bernard  was at 1881 census rg 11/765/97/26, age 6 and 1901 census RG13 same, age 16, born st leonards, draper's assistant worker,

Bernard lived at  150 Long Street, Cape Town, Cape of Good Hope, Cape, his widower, Edith Moon died in England about 14 years ago (from 1946) therefore maybe 1932, and was is wife EDITH ?BROADHURST? ( not sure on this) in London, England (from charlottes funeral, her mother-in-law) their only child (which i have a pic of about 1932) is IRENE FLORENCE MOON, b. 28 Dec 1927, Capetown, South Africa

in 1946 , Irene received motuary benefit fund at 42 devonshire hill lane, tottenham,london, W11 england,

sorry this is so long but would like to know what happened to Irene and Edith, thanks Jennifer
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Re: Bernard James Moon, business called B. Jays, Capetown
« Reply #1 on: Monday 26 September 05 06:01 BST (UK) »

Hi Jennifer,
Do you have a copy of the death notice from the South African archives at all? This will give an indication of any children.
Iam afraid much of your research would probably be in the Uk. I have searched the archives for the name nuler or nuber and cannot find anything.
Will carry on looking.
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Re: Bernard James Moon, business called B. Jays, Capetown
« Reply #2 on: Monday 26 September 05 13:20 BST (UK) »

wow, Ruth, thanks for responding,

i do have that info., tonight when i get home from work, i will copy/attach it to this thread so you can look at it,

i have been looking for Nuler, Nuber too and can't find, maybe i can find the people that buried him, mr. a. montgomery, 14 sydney st., green point, episco?

i have a pic of his burial, a mound of earth

if Irene's mom did die when she was about 5, who looked after her and i have the address in tottenham when she received the balance of the estate

you are right when you say i need to find most of this in England but can't get anywhere there either

was hoping to find this 'cousin' connection or 'burial' connection in Capetown,

also, do you know anything about SACTA (South Africa Commercial Traveller's Assoc. ) or their magazine 'On the Road'? i have a recent pic of 150 Long St. where his business B. Jay's was (he sold soft goods whatever that is)

One brother went to Capetown, one went to Melbourne, australia (have found them and talk to them) and the other brother came to Canada (this is where i fit in) - never to see one another again! this just amazes me...

talk soon and thanks again
jennifer
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Re: Bernard James Moon, business called B. Jays, Capetown
« Reply #3 on: Monday 26 September 05 16:17 BST (UK) »

Hi jennifer,
I have looked through the death records 1984-2002 for the Uk and the closest i come is irene Florence Roulstone b 27 dec 1927 and died in nottingham in 1995.
nothing else close.
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Re: Bernard James Moon, business called B. Jays, Capetown
« Reply #4 on: Monday 26 September 05 17:29 BST (UK) »

WOW, Ruth, thanks, i am in Canada so not sure how to look up those death records other than 1837 online, i think i will order the cert. and see what i find? what do you think?
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Re: Bernard James Moon, business called B. Jays, Capetown
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 02:07 BST (UK) »

i tried to attach but will try again, here is the death info., it says A. Nuber, Nuler? cousin, can anyone else maybe figure out what the name is please, along with info. on his business, does anyone know about B.Jays at 150 long street in 1946 and the SACTA please?
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Re: Bernard James Moon, business called B. Jays, Capetown
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 02:18 BST (UK) »

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* bernardMoon2a.pdf (250.8 KB - downloaded 27 times.)
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 02:22 BST (UK) »

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Re: Bernard James Moon, business called B. Jays, Capetown
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 02:40 BST (UK) »

Hi moon,
the attachment worked, I couldn't see it on the board, but when I downloaded it I can see it fine.
I'll have a look at it and see if I can decipher for you!
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BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (Banff) – SWAN (Fife) – WOOD (LND)
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Re: Bernard James Moon, business called B. Jays, Capetown
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 02:48 BST (UK) »

Moon, I think the name is A. NUBER.  They are described as "cousin of a child of the deceased". 
Did you need any other information off the documents?

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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (Banff) – SWAN (Fife) – WOOD (LND)
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Re: Bernard James Moon, business called B. Jays, Capetown
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 02:53 BST (UK) »

Cousin of a child of the deceased...means that A. NUBER was either the deceased's niece/nephew, or the niece/nephew of his wife.  The latter would make more sense, otherwise why wouldn't they have just written "Niece/nephew of the deceased"? 

It's too confusing for me !!  Huh   Grin

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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (Banff) – SWAN (Fife) – WOOD (LND)
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Re: Bernard James Moon, business called B. Jays, Capetown
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 13:06 BST (UK) »

thank you, Prue, so it is A. Nuber, i think i can read everything else, wish i could find this person! (or his/her relatives!)
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Re: Bernard James Moon, business called B. Jays, Capetown
« Reply #12 on: Monday 03 July 06 14:37 BST (UK) »

Hi Moon

Sorry I don't have any new info for you but thought I must correct some of the info you have in your post just in case you need it in the future.

Maitland Cemetery is not in Dorp Street which is in the centre of Cape Town.  The Dorp Street address is probably that of A Steyl.  Incidentally, Dorp Street crosses Long Street about half way down Long Street.

The Maitland Cemetery is a huge cemetery in Voortrekker Road, Maitland, a suburb of Cape Town and is a distance outside the city centre.

Cape Town is in the Western Cape and not the Eastern Cape.

By the way, SACTA (South African Commercial Travellers' Association) still exists.  I called them to see if they could give me any information about the business or Bernard Moon but they have no archives or means of finding out that sort of information.

Soft goods would have been things like cushions, duvets, pillows, etc.

I agree that the name looks like "Nuber".  The problem is that it is not a name you find in SA.  Could it perhaps be Huber, which is common, and perhaps the "N" is actually a lower case "H" and just an anomaly in the way that  person wrote?  It is confusing as the initial "A" is very precise.

Hope you have progressed since the last post.

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Re: Bernard James Moon, business called B. Jays, Capetown
« Reply #13 on: Monday 03 July 06 14:43 BST (UK) »

Hi Moon

I forgot to mention that Green Point is also a suburb just outside the city centre.  I have no idea what "episco" refers to.  I couldn't see the reference to Mr Montgomery in the the attachments so can't offer any more info.

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Re: Bernard James Moon, business called B. Jays, Capetown
« Reply #14 on: Monday 03 July 06 15:21 BST (UK) »

thank you for the corrections, Moira
no i have not gotten further, would you like to know more about Mr Montgomery to check out

would you be able to send me the address and phone # of Sacta please?

Jennifer
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