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Kazza
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Found a classic yesterday:
Exsuperius Weston Turner (Christened 02.Oct.1822)
Exsuperius Weston Turner (Christened 22.Jul.1823)
It would appear the parents liked the name so much, that when the first one passed on, they gave it to the next one who was already on the way.
Personally I think they must have played scrabble the night before.
I have one like this, not an unusual name, but a child passed on and another named similarly.
Frederick John Mardon born Dawlish, appears on the 1871 census as a 13 week old.
Fredrick John Mardon born Cardiff, appears on the 1881 census as a 4 year old.
It is the same family, there are too many other coincidences for it not to be. So I had assumed there were mistakes in the census, then I found a death for a Frederick John Mardon in 1876, and the mother would have been pregnant with the other child. So my theory is that they named the child for the one they had just lost. As time went by Fredrick became known as Frederick. I do not know whether the missing e was a mistake or a mis-spelling.
But, my question is, is it legal for parents to name 2 chidren exactly the same? I had always thought it was not , but if so when did it become the law?
One for you MrsLizzy I think. 
Kazza.
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 Surname interests: Clementsten, Hobson, Hole, Marden, O'Clements, Pitten, Sharland, Vickery (Vicary), Williams. Area Interests: Cardiff, Bampton, Bideford, Crediton, Wollaston, Somerset, Tidenham, Norway, Australia to Bristol. |
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Little Nell
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It happened all the time. I have at least fourteen instances on various twigs of the tree where a second child was named after an older sibling who had died. If the vicar was happy to baptise a second child with the same name as the one he buried four weeks previously, it must have been legal as far as the church was concerned. This happened as far back as the 1600s. If you look at the medieval kings and queens - they had lots of children, often lots of early deaths and many children with the same name, both legitimate and illegitmate. If it was alright for them, who are we to argue.
Nell
PS I bet Fred was one of the grandfather's names.
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Boongie Pam
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Lilian Palmer 1923 to 1987
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I have a recent case of this to (1923) were none of the family knew that my grandad's oldest sister died after only a couple weeks. The name was "reused" about 8 yrs later. Most of my families stick to the Scottish naming pattern with a fervour and will keep using a name until a child lives.
I also have two Janes that lived, 2 sisters. One known as Jean one as Jane but both baptised Jane.
Cheers,
Pam
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier
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Kazza
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Well,
You learn a new thing every day, this is the first time I have come across it in my family. I had no idea it was so common.
Thanks to all for feed-back,
Kazza.
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Surname interests: Clementsten, Hobson, Hole, Marden, O'Clements, Pitten, Sharland, Vickery (Vicary), Williams. Area Interests: Cardiff, Bampton, Bideford, Crediton, Wollaston, Somerset, Tidenham, Norway, Australia to Bristol.
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