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Parish Register - Arkesden
« on: Monday 26 September 05 14:22 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Would it be possible for someone to do a lookup for me next time they visit the Essex Record Office please.

Details are:  St Mary the Virgin, Arkesden.  Register of Birth/Marriage/Deaths.  Reference D/P 317/1/2 dates:  1736-1812.

I'm looking for any JOSOLYNE (+ variants) baptisms.   I think the year range for the JOSOLYNE's would be c.1750-1765

Also, I am looking for a marriage - year range 1745 and 1753 between THOMAS JOSOLYNE and SARAH?  This would also be in the same register.

Many thanks

Anna Smiley
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Josolyne - Essex & Herts,
Wainwright - Hamps & London,
Kentish - Rotherhithe, London & Kent,
Herbert - Seaford, Sussex - London & Glous.
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Re: Parish Register - Arkesden
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 08 October 05 14:09 BST (UK) »

D/P 317/1/2: at the beginning of fiche 1 of this set were listed marriages from 1736-1754. There were no JOSOLYNEs (or variants) included.
This fiche included these baptisms:
May 31 1750 Elizabeth and Mary daughters of Richard and Elizabeth JOCELIN born ye 5th of May
June 29 1752 Joseph son of Richard and Elizabeth JOCELIN born ye 5th
I discontinued search of baptisms at 1763
On this same fiche was a burial of Elizabeth JOCELIN on April 2 1754. No age given.
On D/P 317/1/3 fiche 1 of 1 page 4 entry 15
Richard JOCELINE otp widower married Sarah BYCRAFT of Wendon* Loughto single woman by banns 21 October 1756
Richard JOCELINE signed Richard JOSELINE and Sarah BYCRAFT made her mark.
The witnesses were John JOCELINE (who made mark) and Nathaniel HAYDON who signed.
* I am not certain that this word said 'Wendon' ( I have heard of a parish of this name from somewhere) and I wondered whether the next word was meant to be 'Loughton'
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Re: Parish Register - Arkesden
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 09 October 05 01:34 BST (UK) »

Wendens Ambo could be the place you are thinking of, it is only about 3 miles northeast of Arkesden.  To find Wendens Ambo on the map, it is about a couple of miles to the west of Saffron Walden, on the eastern side of the M11 and very close to the M11.

Good luck.
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Re: Parish Register - Arkesden
« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 October 05 10:30 BST (UK) »

Hi Clincher & Findem

Many thanks for your help again Clincher, I don't think these people are in my line though. 
I know my Josolyne originate somewhere in Essex I will just have to keep eliminating places until I find them!!
Re: Wendon, there is also a place called Wendon Lofts according to the IGI, I don't know where it is though.

Thanks again
Ann
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Wainwright - Hamps & London,
Kentish - Rotherhithe, London & Kent,
Herbert - Seaford, Sussex - London & Glous.
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Re: Parish Register - Arkesden
« Reply #4 on: Monday 10 October 05 12:33 BST (UK) »

Hi Ann12,
Just found Wenden Lofts on Multimap.

If you search using Wenden Lofts a message states "No Matching Places"  Huh

If you search using Duddenhoe End, then when that portion of the map comes up, right click on the map to enlarge it, Wenden Lofts will then show.  It is a little north of Duddenhoe End.

I found it by trial and Error, according to an old map (print) of Essex I have there was a Wenden Parva and a Wenden Magna.  My trusty road atlas only shows Wendens Ambo, so I thought I would give Multimap a whirl.  I know that when you zoom on multimap other small unlisted places suddenly appear.

Regards and good luck.
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Re: Parish Register - Arkesden
« Reply #5 on: Monday 10 October 05 13:22 BST (UK) »

It's surprising to me how Essex has quite a few obscure place names. Duddenhoe End stumped me!! And maybe Wendon Lofts had a longer spelling once upon a time. I always thought it was only counties like darkest Dorset and cryptic Cornwall who were blessed in that way. I'd better not mention East Anglia Roll Eyes
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Re: Parish Register - Arkesden
« Reply #6 on: Monday 10 October 05 14:58 BST (UK) »

In an online "Old map of Essex" I did find what looked like Wenden Loughs, not very clear, in fact it looked as though there was another word between Wenden and Loughs.  The spelling of "Loughs" might not be totally correct, it wasn't easy to decipher, somewhat blurred. 

I think it might be best for Ann12 to check out Wenden Lofts on Multimap and see what parishes lie closest to it.  After looking at Wenden Lofts I doubt it has ever had a church of it's own, from the size of it, it would have been lucky to even have a pub.  From memory I believe Chrishall was as near as Arksenden, if not nearer, so there may have been several churches the inhabitants could use.  I suppose in those circumstances you start with the nearest and if nothing there move on to the next hoping you'll get lucky  Smiley   
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Re: Parish Register - Arkesden
« Reply #7 on: Monday 10 October 05 15:49 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Thanks for your help.  It was a bit of a long shot trying to find them in Arkesden.  I only know that the father was married there in 1777, to his second wife.  I can't find any records on the IGI for John Josolyne or his brothers and sisters (I know their names from his Will).  Maybe I should start looking for parishes that aren't on the IGI database.  Arkesden and Manuden are both missing, I'm sure there must be more AWOL registers in that area.

Anna

PS There is an entry for John Josolyne b. Manuden 1762 but it was submitted by a LDS member so I can't confirm the data is correct.  Although his marriage record said he was from Manuden (thanks again to Clincher for that info).
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Josolyne - Essex & Herts,
Wainwright - Hamps & London,
Kentish - Rotherhithe, London & Kent,
Herbert - Seaford, Sussex - London & Glous.
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Re: Parish Register - Arkesden
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 16 October 05 02:22 BST (UK) »

Hi Anna,

If you haven't already carried out a Google search on Wenden Lofts it would be worth your while doing so.  The only reason I did the search was that someone reminded me of the on-line Ordnance Survey maps, I wondered if a search there on Wenden Lofts would reveal it, it didn't Shocked

Out of curiosity I thought I would try Google search on Wenden Lofts and up came the info plus a picture of the church.  The church was St Dunstans and was closed in 1928, all being well there should be PRs at the ERO if you need them.  There are other snippets of useful info attached such as the merger of Wenden Lofts and another parish.

Regards.
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