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Topic: Sarah LADYMAN (Read 616 times)
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coonwarra
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Re: Ladyman
« Reply #15 on: Monday 26 September 05 20:57 BST (UK) » |
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Yes - this looks very possible - in the LDS there are a couple of Sarah Whiffins born in Deptford around the right time.
It looks as though the family bible entries for Sarah Ladyman are correct. Assuming that she was in fact born 1 August 1842 I wonder where to go next for details of her parents/siblings etc?
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Ireland: Arlour, Arlow, Hammond, Hannah, Shanks
Scotland: Allan, Black, Carlyle, Corkingdale, Fleeting, Grant, Hammond, Hannah, Kirkwood, Lothian, McFarlane, Neilson, Shanks, Sneddon, Wood
Sussex/Hampshire/Surrey/London/Kent: Beagley, Douch, Earl, Ladyman, Pattenden, Peskett, Standen, Stonestreet, Windiate
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Tati
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Re: Ladyman
« Reply #17 on: Monday 26 September 05 21:31 BST (UK) » |
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CatOne offered to give details of 1861 but she's offline 
I now (in fact, after typing the whole thing, I have just deleted it!) see that the one she had found is still around on later census returns so shouldn't be your girl.
The other possible is a servant, so not much help:
RG9/898
Folio 100 p. 8
Bucknell, Oxfordshire
Sarah Ladyman, serv, 18, Kitchen maid, b. Northamptonshire Evenley (the place we have found May earlier!)
in a large household, Bucknell House
Perhaps somebody can do a 1851 census look-up for this girl. Otherwise you would have to order her marriage certificate to find out her father's name.
Tanja 
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Tati
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Re: Ladyman
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 07:41 BST (UK) » |
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Just to add a possible connection:
In 1861, there is this family in Evenlay:
RG9/921
Folio 99 p. 11
Evenley, Northamptonshire
Hannah Ladyman, head, wid, 57, Charwoman, b. Bucks Poundon (?)
Ann, dau, unm, 29, Pillow Lace Maker, b. Evenley
Thomas, son, unm, 25, Invalid, b. Evenley (nearly deaf)
Emily, granddau, 7, b. Evenley
Rosetta, granddau, 4, b. Evenley
Tanja
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coonwarra
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Re: Ladyman
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 09:04 BST (UK) » |
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Tanja
This could well be my family. On free BMD there is the death of a John Ladyman in Brackley Northants in 1856. This is only a very short distance from Evenley and would explain why Hannah is shown as a widow on the 1861 census.
I wonder who the grandchildren belong to as both Thomas and Ann are shown as being unmarried.
Andrew
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Ireland: Arlour, Arlow, Hammond, Hannah, Shanks
Scotland: Allan, Black, Carlyle, Corkingdale, Fleeting, Grant, Hammond, Hannah, Kirkwood, Lothian, McFarlane, Neilson, Shanks, Sneddon, Wood
Sussex/Hampshire/Surrey/London/Kent: Beagley, Douch, Earl, Ladyman, Pattenden, Peskett, Standen, Stonestreet, Windiate
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CatOne
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Re: Ladyman
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 09:26 BST (UK) » |
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Do you think Ann could be fibbing? On the 1871 census shes living with daughter Violetta aged 1 and "married"....... RG10/1467 Folio 118 Page 29 St James Northamptonshire
Ann Ladyman married 39 Lacemaker Evenley
Violetta daughter 1 Brackley
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Re: Ladyman
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 09:36 BST (UK) » |
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In 1881 Violetta's staying with aunt Mary Viccars (must be nee Ladyman, as no father on the scene?) RG11/1531 Folio 24 Page 11 New Road, Brackley, St Peter, Northamptonshire
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Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire Shaw, Marland - Lancashire Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland Richards - Neath Swansea Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov |
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coonwarra
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Re: Ladyman
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 09:45 BST (UK) » |
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mmmmm - does sound very suspicious particularly given the correllation of age, occupation and place of birth.
I wonder what the punishment was in 1871 for telling such porkies on the census?
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Ireland: Arlour, Arlow, Hammond, Hannah, Shanks
Scotland: Allan, Black, Carlyle, Corkingdale, Fleeting, Grant, Hammond, Hannah, Kirkwood, Lothian, McFarlane, Neilson, Shanks, Sneddon, Wood
Sussex/Hampshire/Surrey/London/Kent: Beagley, Douch, Earl, Ladyman, Pattenden, Peskett, Standen, Stonestreet, Windiate
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coonwarra
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Re: Ladyman
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 10:13 BST (UK) » |
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This must be them. If we can establish John's occupation this should confirm things.
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Ireland: Arlour, Arlow, Hammond, Hannah, Shanks
Scotland: Allan, Black, Carlyle, Corkingdale, Fleeting, Grant, Hammond, Hannah, Kirkwood, Lothian, McFarlane, Neilson, Shanks, Sneddon, Wood
Sussex/Hampshire/Surrey/London/Kent: Beagley, Douch, Earl, Ladyman, Pattenden, Peskett, Standen, Stonestreet, Windiate
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coonwarra
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Re: LADYMAN
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 12:43 BST (UK) » |
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John's first name & occupation came with some information that was sent to me from an old family bible which may, or may not, be accurate!
Most other things in it have turned out to be correct so I can only assume at this stage that the details are right.
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Ireland: Arlour, Arlow, Hammond, Hannah, Shanks
Scotland: Allan, Black, Carlyle, Corkingdale, Fleeting, Grant, Hammond, Hannah, Kirkwood, Lothian, McFarlane, Neilson, Shanks, Sneddon, Wood
Sussex/Hampshire/Surrey/London/Kent: Beagley, Douch, Earl, Ladyman, Pattenden, Peskett, Standen, Stonestreet, Windiate
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G. Peskett
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Re: LADYMAN
« Reply #29 on: Monday 08 January 07 02:06 GMT (UK) » |
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Here's what I have on this family:
George Peskett Christened at Godalming 1830. He married twice. His first wife was Frances Williams ,the daughter of William Williams an innkeeper at Church Speen. Frances was christened at Marcham,Berks in 1835. She was employed as a house servant to the Curate of South Warnborough. They were married 14th July.1859 at Stockcross, Berks.Their daughter Caroline was born 12th July, 1860 and died 12th March,1861. Frances died at Crondall(near Odiham) 2nd June,1861,aged 26.His second wife was Sarah Ladyman, the daughter of John Ladyman (carpenter).Sarah was born in Deptford, Kent in 1828. They were married 6th September,1864 at St. George’s,Hanover Square.There were 3 children of the marriage,born in Woolwich and Plumstead:- 1865 George (There may have been a twin ,possibly named Sarah who died in infancy);1866 Harry and 1868 May. By 1880 George and his family may have been living in Bury Cottage.The 1881 census shows them at the Bell Inn, The Bury, Odiham.George transferred Bury Cottage to his son George in 1903.Sarah died 27th August, 1886 aged 58 .George died in 1908 in the Bury, Odiham ,but we are not sure exactly where. According to the 1901 census his son George and family were living at The Bell in the Bury but at that time George was not living with them.
Death notice in local paper :- Death of Mr. George Peskett Died previous Monday. Business of plumber and painter in the Bury,a business which had been in the deceased’s family for several generations. He was 79 and had been bedridden for a long time,and his constant prayer was to "go home".
As for the discrepencies in the 1871 census, I have been unable to clarify them.
Gerald Peskett
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Interest in all PESKETT references no matter how small. Trying to piece together the PESKETTs whom mostly have come from Sussex, Surrey, Kent and Hampshire.
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