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lynn
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Hi,
Please could anyone tell me what Ward etc I look for on the 1911 Census.
The Address is;-
1000 Beach Avenue, Winnipeg, Manitoba.
The family name is Griffin.
I do know George died in 1919 as I have copies of his CEF papers. Also he is buried in Elmwood Cemetery but alas by himself. I also know one of his daughters was living at this address until about early 1920s. Therefore I am trying to find his wife Lavinia and three other daughters.
Any help would be very much appreciated as I really want to knock this brick wall down, lol
Thank you
Lynn
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Josephine
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Lynn,
Go to the Government of Canada website for the 1911 census and can click on "view map". The map only shows where the wards were for the 1911 census; it does not list street names.
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1911/006003-330.09-e.html
The Natural Resources of Canada website shows images from the 1915 Atlas of Canada.
This page shows maps of Winnipeg and Edmonton:
http://atlas.gc.ca/site/english/maps/archives/2ndedition/peopleandsociety/culturalgeography/page77_78
The maps show street names and wards. I don't know if the regular wards on the second map correspond with the census wards on the first map (on the census website).
Good luck!
Josephine
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Barnett (Chatham, Kent)
Beaumont (Gillingham, Kent)
Christy (Shropshire, Lancashire & Cheshire)
George (London area, incl. Bethnal Green)
Holland (Cheshire)
Parker (Chatham, Kent)
Pope (Middlesex)
Salisbury (Cheshire)
Simmons (Kent)
Cunningham, Dobson, Easton, Muir, Pryde & Oliver (Scotland to Canada)
Carson, Colbert, Colclough, Coy, McGlinchey, Riley, Rooney, Trotter & Waters (Ireland to Canada)
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eillo
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Sarah Page born Chilham Kent 1836 who are parents?
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Good news!
The 1911 census for Winnipeg manitoba has been indexed as part of the 1911 Census Surname Index Project at AllCensusRecords.com
http://allcensusrecords.com/canada/manitoba/
Once you find your name GRIFFIN, just write down the District, Subdistrict and Page Number
Then scroll to the very bottom of the page at AllCensusRecords.com where you found your surname and there's a link to the images online at the National Archives of Canada. Go there and choose your District, Subdistrict and page#. When the image loads your names will be there.
PS I just took a peek and your GRIFFIN name is on two subdistricts of Winnipeg (so 2 pages of AllCensusRecords.com) Don't miss the second one!
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KENT: Fuller, Simpson, Stead, Caspall, Norris, Philpott, Elvery DEVON: Williams, Caspall SUSSEX: Simpson YORKSHIRE: Dewhirst/Dewhurst, Wormald, Hill, Schulze CANADA: McGinnis, Peer, Vollick and more Websites: AllEnglishRecords.comAllCensusRecords.com |
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stonechat
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The only addres I have for Winnipeg is from 1960's in St Vital.
Many members of the family seemed to move to B.C. according to what little info I have
Which division of Winnipeg in 1911 might St Vital be in?
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Douglas, Varnden, Joy(i)ce Surrey, Clarke Northants/Hunts, Pullen Worcs/Herefords, Holmes Birmingham/USA/Canada/Australia, Jackson Cheshire/Yorkshire, Lomas Cheshire, Lee Yorkshire, Cocks Lancashire, Leah Cheshire, Cook Yorkshire, Catlow Lancashire
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J.J.
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The district 24 is on the west of the Red river...but beach Ave, which is in
Elmwood, is to the west of the river. I do not know what this district was
numbered as in 1911 but I am trying to find out for you...You will have to go through the pages one by one, though, when we do find out.
(wish it was easier for you)
J.J.
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eillo
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Sarah Page born Chilham Kent 1836 who are parents?
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Don't forget that all of Winnipeg is indexed and online for 1911 census, at http://allcensusrecords.com/canada/manitoba/
Stonechat, what are your surnames? Did you go to the website and look for them? Follow the instructions I gave Lynn for her GRIFFIN family (they were on that website)
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KENT: Fuller, Simpson, Stead, Caspall, Norris, Philpott, Elvery DEVON: Williams, Caspall SUSSEX: Simpson YORKSHIRE: Dewhirst/Dewhurst, Wormald, Hill, Schulze CANADA: McGinnis, Peer, Vollick and more Websites: AllEnglishRecords.comAllCensusRecords.com |
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J.J.
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eillo,
Just trying to get across that back then, Elmwood was a town, even though it
is now part of Winnipeg, just as St. Boniface, St. Norbert, St. Vital, etc....were
once towns but now part of Winnipeg...So 24 embodies what was then Winnipeg,
the area shown on the west side of the river ( see map) and only 5 of these are
completed on that site......and the rest is not distinguishable from the Provencher
map, which seems to be the only other area covered within the vicinity of the
city. J.J.
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J.J.
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Hi, Lynn,
If you refer to the previous atlas/map 1915 of Winnipeg, the Elmwood Cemetery is just in the second large curve of the Red River, in the small section by itself.
Funny that these 2 old maps are positioned to see the west on the top rather
than the North! P.S. I may be wrong about Elmwood having being a town, back then, as it may have only been an named section / area.
Have called City of Winnipeg, Manitoba Archives as well as Collections Canada to try and find out why there is no map for the area in census 1911. No one seemed to have an answer...but collections referred me to the Western Land Grants online help map.
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/02/02011101_e.html#map
He insisted that if I knew where Elmwood is I would be able to figure it out from the map...Haven't managed to yet!!!! (sorry)
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stonechat
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Hi
I have found one branch in Ninette Manitoba in the 1911 Census
Caroline Edwards son George, Wife Rose and daughter Alice are together.
Son Samuel aged 14 is Working on a farm and staying there (died in WW1)
I have not yet Found Caroline Emma Edwards (widowed) , who is probably staying with her daughter Emma Caroline Smith, her husband Dennis, and sons Fred and Ernest. This should be in Winnipeg, the only address I have is St Vital, I need to have a concerted search
Bob
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Douglas, Varnden, Joy(i)ce Surrey, Clarke Northants/Hunts, Pullen Worcs/Herefords, Holmes Birmingham/USA/Canada/Australia, Jackson Cheshire/Yorkshire, Lomas Cheshire, Lee Yorkshire, Cocks Lancashire, Leah Cheshire, Cook Yorkshire, Catlow Lancashire
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J.J.
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Have you checked the BMD?...Probably not recent enough...
But don't just use winnipeg, as sometimes it is under wpg..
might be better to just use the surnames only and then look
for names that you know...http://web2.gov.mb.ca/cca/vital/Query.php
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J.J.
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I also found this writeup just now...Elmwood was a newer subdistrict according to this, but doesn't say when it was established...although it does have 3 districts behind the name tmaking it even more confusing.
Up to 1971 what is now Winnipeg was divided into 12 independent municipalities. Each of these municipalities was made up of smaller communities that differed from one another in various ways (income level and ethnic origin were the main factors). This makes Winnipeg a complex mosaic of small units, each with characteristics that set them apart from other areas of the city. The City of Winnipeg has identified 228 such units, called "neighbourhoods".
Although the Winnipeg Health Region community boundaries follow historic boundaries to some extent, these boundaries have been altered for administrative purposes and include parts of different municipalities. As a result, determining the history of the WHR community may mean having to determine the histories of more than one municipality or neighbourhood.
Here are some of the original municipalities and districts that fall wholly or partly into the different WHR communities:
1. City of St. James, RM of Assiniboia, RM of St. Charles, Town of Brooklands.
2. RM of Charleswood, Town of Tuxedo
3. RM of Fort Garry, RM of St. Norbert
4. City of St. Vital
5. City of St. Boniface
6. Town of Transcona
7. Elmwood (old Winnipeg district); RM's of East Kildonan, North Kildonan, East St. Paul.
8. RM's of West Kildonan, Old Kildonan, West St. Paul.
9. Old City of Winnipeg ("North End")
10. Old City of Winnipeg ("North End"). Point Douglas historically is the east end of the WHR community between Main Street and the Red River.
11. Old City of Winnipeg.
12. Old City of Winnipeg: River Heights and Fort Rouge districts (Stafford Street is the boundary).
Will still try to track down more info so that I can understand it better myself...
and hopefully get this district division thing down for helping with the 1911. J.J.
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eillo
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I have not yet Found Caroline Emma Edwards (widowed) , who is probably staying with her daughter Emma Caroline Smith, Husband Dennos, and sons Fred and Ernest. This should be i Winnipeg, the only address I have is St Vital, I need to have a concerted search
Hi Bob
Did you check the online indexes for Winnipeg?
All 5 subdistricts are done, they start at
http://www.allcensusrecords.com/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-24.shtml
I took a quick peek and there are TWO subdistricts with the SMITH surname. There are also TWO with EDWARDS!
All you need do is go and get the subdistrict and page #s, then click on the link that takes you to the online images... then you can see if this is your SMITH and EDWARDS family
Fingers crossed that its' your family.
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stonechat
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Hi
I think I have now check all the Edwards
They may be in St Vital which is district 47 and 48, which has not been indexed, I have been looking through the census pages
Bob
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Douglas, Varnden, Joy(i)ce Surrey, Clarke Northants/Hunts, Pullen Worcs/Herefords, Holmes Birmingham/USA/Canada/Australia, Jackson Cheshire/Yorkshire, Lomas Cheshire, Lee Yorkshire, Cocks Lancashire, Leah Cheshire, Cook Yorkshire, Catlow Lancashire
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J.J.
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Hi, Bob, Remember that those are sub-districtes to 21!!!!
Lynn!!!! I finally think I found the right place for Elmwood...as i put in Kildonan and found a west and an east....
Province/Territory: Manitoba , District Name: Selkirk
District Number: 22
Sub-district Name/ Description:
Parish of Kildonan east of Red River
Sub-district Number: 16
So now you can look in each image...there are only 30....!!!! Good luck!!!!
Let us know what you find!
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J.J.
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Lynn,
went to the archives today, so slipped in to view telephone records for
Winnipeg.... but no phones in your house.....
However, the Henderson Directory for 1925 showed Mrs. geo. Griffin still at the home....went 5 years later and that page was missing, so had time to do 1929
and the address was now under a James Young. ( Still good to know as could end up being a relative )
What other details do you have? the birth of Mrs. Griffin?....any middle names?
Names of the daughters? nationality?
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